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By Rafa McNulty, published 20/12/2005Rafa McNulty argues Australians need to condemn the bigoted sentiments that divide this nation.
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Posted by maracas, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 1:05:28 PM
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Rafa,
This is your opening sentence: "I am proud to be an Australian." That is the craziest sentence I have ever read. Just why are you proud to be an Australian? Sorry Rafa, I am ashamed that I am Australian. Posted by GlenWriter, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 6:21:19 PM
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It’s nice to hear that the author feels Australian and appears to have intermarried, judging by her surname; but her belief that Australia is a “shining example of multiculturalism at its best” is off balance. People have not “come together” through the undemocratic imposition of an official multicultural policy. Australia was a naturally multiracial society from the time it was colonised by Britain. People of all backgrounds fitted in relatively quickly and came together as Australians.
It is a moot point indeed that the Cronulla affair was an “Australian against Australian” affair. The white ones were Australian, but how can she be sure that the Lebanese side of the equation should be called Australian? It takes more than a citizenship ceremony or even birth in Australia to be a true Australian. You have to ‘feel’ Australian. The author feels Australian; therefore she is Australian. There is no denying that many if not most of the Lebanese youths involved do not feel Australian. They tell us this themselves. They may have been born here, but thanks to the divisive and confusing enforcement of an official multiculturalism policy on all of us by stupid, white Australian politicians, these young people don’t know what they are supposed to be, feel or think. It’s shame on the bloody self-serving politicians, not “shame of us” as Ms. McNulty believes. The “demonisation” of Arabs by the media is out of wack with reality, too. If anyone is demonised by the left wing media it is Anglo-Australians - as was clearly evidenced in reports on the situation at Cronulla, the polls about white supremacists, and the squeals of white racism. Most recently they have not even used the “of Middle Eastern appearance” description “We” do nothing about the problem, Ms. McNulty. The onus is on the idiots who introduced multiculturalism. Before this stupid policy, people got along in Australia much better than they do now. Australia was born with ‘currency lads’, not artificial social engineering and meddling in the 20th century. We took the mickey out of newcomers, they returned the compliment, and we got on well Posted by Leigh, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 9:10:33 PM
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There were no reported calls for tolerance,patience and rule of law emanating from the mosque that night (Invasion night)
just the ‘usual prayers’. That such an invasion (60 cars) was not detected/predicted/noticed and STOPPED by Police is evidence that all Tim Priest said of ‘on the ground Intelligence gathering’ is not a part of current Sydney Police philosophy. <<As the police began to gather and act on intelligence on these emerging Middle Eastern gangs the first of the series of events took place. The New South Wales Police was restructured under Peter Ryan. Crime Intelligence, the eyes and ears of all police forces throughout the world, was dismantled overnight>> So, up till now, they still don’t know what is going on. We had the benefit of an OLO poster who informed us that the invasion was planned WELL BEFORE the riot it was supposed to be a ‘reaction’ to. The veracity of his claim is yet to be tested. <<The Lebanese groups were ruthless, extremely violent, and they intimidated not only innocent witnesses, but ...even the police that attempted to arrest them.... As these crime groups encountered less resistance in terms of police operations and enforcement, their power grew not only within their own communities, but also all around Sydney.>> Here is the dilemna 2001 POLICE SPIN http://www.cyc-net.org/today2001/today010723.html Bankstown police chief, Superintendent Peter Parsons, denies any link between culture and crime. (fair comment on the surface) "We have a sizable population of Arabic-speaking people. We have a lot of crime, probably the most crime of any command in the State but, proportionately, I would say that Arabic-speaking people don't commit any more crime than people of an Anglo-Saxon background." Analysis (of the gobbeldygook) a)We have....the MOST crime in any command. b)“proportionately speaking, no more than Anglo-Saxon ’ ? What am I missing here ? a and b are incompatible! 1999-2001 STATISTICAL REALITY http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/bocsar1.nsf/files/cjb57.pdf/$file/cjb57.pdf Gun crime in NSW declined, but it SKYROCKETED in ‘Canterbury/Bankstown area’ No “cultural” link between a specific culture and crime, but there sure is a geographical/ethnic one here shown above. Why no action ? Why ? Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 9:24:49 PM
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"It takes more than a citizenship ceremony or even birth in Australia to be a true Australian. You have to ‘feel’ Australian."
this is proof that Leigh has been feeling himself a little too often. tisk tisk! Posted by Rainier, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 9:57:31 PM
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one way to not fix but prevent worse would be to not let this happen
http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/12071.shtml Toronto, Canada Monday, December 19, 2005 - On December 2, the Liberal candidate for Mississauga-Erindale, Omar Alghabra, made his victory speech after winning the nomination. In that speech, he reportedly exhorted his audience, "This is a victory for Islam! Islam won! Islam Won! ... Islamic power is extending into Canadian politics". We need to fix the mess we have now before it gets as bad as the above. Deport the Hate Clerics and anyone caught ready to commit terror. Have an enquiry into police being unable (through fear or policy) to police Lebs equally to us. etc etc the zero tolerance approach.. Canada “was” a western country. Kaweb, I can’t post on that other string, I wasn’t cracking jokes, I was trying to show Steve the lack of value in all r’s posts by showing another bit of idiocy from him. I thought it might lessen the punch in the guts of the comment if Steve realised the kind of low intelligence it came from… I’m normally very for people saying how they feel. I don’t think peoples “feelings” have a high priority on a political debate forum, but man that was just ugly Posted by meredith, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 12:48:50 AM
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There is a serious impediment though when the leader of this country uses racial fears which play on peoples prejudice, for the purpose of electoral gain.
The so-called war on terror has focussed attention on race instead of fundamentalist ideology whilst Australia's immigration policy and denial of asylum has made an enormous contribution to the growth of racism.
Cultural differences need to be properly understood, Just as modern day Australian girls follow fashion trends which are more revealing, Women raised in Muslim communities have their own standards of dress which are not so. I am appalled that people could be moved to forcibly remove the hijab of a muslim woman and hurl abuse at her just as much as the obscene comments of muslim men in reference to bikini clad beach goers as 'aussie sluts'
Our laws relating to racial discrimination are seriously in need of further scrutiny to ascertain what is needed to strengthen and enforce them.