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Could riots happen in Melbourne? : Comments

By Waleed Aly, published 21/12/2005

Waleed Aly explains why a repetition of the Sydney riots is unlikely to occur in Melbourne.

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I have absolutely no idea how on earth any one could interpret any of my postings as alleging "we" or "you" are all bigots!

I have said there are elements of racism in the community at large - there is evidence of racism on these sites.

But I guess your assertion gives some weight to the argument that too many of us are acting on false assumptions about the intent of other groups - Muslims for example. If some one can read into my scribblings that some how I assume every one else is a bigot anything is possible and clearly in this particular debate along with truth logic is another casualty.

And you tried to tell me what? That there is a problem? - we all know that - the other problem is there is a raging debate as to what the root cause is.

But I do contend it is not based on some world wide scheme nurtured in the heart of Muslims to take over the world or this country as is so often touted on these pages.

People are expending a lot of energy in laying the blame at the feet of particular ethnic groups and religions - and don't forget the left; for some here they arre the cuase of all our maladies from global warming to racial violence and the loss of the Ashes.

And yes my son was lucky.

And on the note to any one who cares to read this have a good Christmas if Christmas is what you want.
Posted by sneekeepete, Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:15:32 AM
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sneek,
methinks he doth protest too much
Posted by its not easy being, Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:45:44 AM
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Waleed has an ulterior motive which is divide and conquer - only a complete moron or a cunning propagandist would allude to "RIOTS" (plural) - when there was little more than a pub brawl (singular) especially when a few of those bashed Lebs actually provoked the crowd. The so- called bashing of a lebanese woman was a teen cat fight that the 16 year old Aussie girl won. Also Waleed mentions "Surfer gangs" and holds them in the same position as the Leb ones. There are no surfer gangs except the so-called "bra boys" who quickly surrended to the lebs not just tough wannabe comancheros but also a figure straight out of the Bin Laden jihad catalogue. One of the Comancheros even mentioned (deliberately threaten Australian society) that he hasn't seen so many guns since beirut. Well nice of the police to arrest the aussie for carying a tree branch but allowing Lebs to walk around with their Glocks. I don't see any "surfer gangs" going into bankstown and smashing up cars and any arab they find and putting baseball bats to the heads of women dining on a kebab let alone raping them for being leb sluts.

Waleed believes that everyone should convert to Islam and then there would be honest government and scrupulous adherence to Sharia (Islamic law.) Unfortunately, there are no working examples of this, either currently or historically. But when you're on a Mission From God, you don’t need a working example. Gods Word is enough.
Posted by magic jess, Thursday, 22 December 2005 1:01:35 PM
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I do not like denigrating the police, they have an extremely difficult job but why was the trouble at Crunulla and other places permitted to simmer so long? Ten years of insults and slurs is ten years too long and if the police were not capable of controlling the trouble makers the government should have taken over the role.
From all accounts the Lebanese gangs consider themselves above the law. Who is responsible for this attitude? I do not blame them, young people need guidelines, it is evident they have not been given them.
All gangs who commit crimes should be disbanded-by the military if no one else can do it.
And all youth needs to know the law is to be respected---if the law is worthy of it.
Posted by mickijo, Thursday, 22 December 2005 3:37:02 PM
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I speak on behalf of my family and my friends who are all lebenese as I am and the majority of us were born in Australia, went to public schools, and were taught to live in a country that ensured that no one in it would starve, or be left in the streets unless we made the wrong decisions and i appreciate it.
Belive me when i say this, I think Australia is the best country in the world although i think if we continue to hate one another then nothing will ever be resolved.
I myself have been running my own restaurant in an area where the majority of its population are of australian decent and personally speaking i love the fact, I find them to be good people and easy to get along with, MY BEST FRIEND IS 1000000% Australian, and we are civilised towards eachtoher and life itself.
Sure Sydney has its problems, I could tell you that the lebenese gangs there are way out of control but like posted earlier, I think this is a law an order issue. You know i've heard of police in Sydney being scared of these people, and that in itself tells me that there is a serous issue going on here.
You know whats very dissappointing though, is the fact that people are starting to take this out on religion, I am Muslim myself and let me tell you the QURAN does in no way encourage violence, or murder, or suicide bombing, or riots in Sydney, or gangs.
These crimes arent being committed by practising or faithfull muslims, they are simply being committed by careless, thoughtless and stupid people, who have no meaning in life.
So why are people taking this way too far?
Would it be fair if i was to attack an australian decented person because Martin Bryant who was Australian killed 35 people in Tasmania in 1996, or perhaps attack an Italian person because of the MAFIA. Its not right.......
Posted by zEfStAr, Friday, 23 December 2005 1:24:30 AM
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Zefstar (spelling?) quite blindly asserts that Islam is a peaceful religion. One must certainly direct your attention to the Quran where arguably Islam exists in its purist form, and the numerous references to violence, terror and abhorrant human behavior, which beg the question, where does this inherent peacefulness originate? Surely not in the imaginations of many ill informed and purely superficially islamic Australians engaged in the flawed defence of the staple of 7th century Arab culture? Might I also direct your attention to the spread of Islam through the middle east, africa and europe, which was accomplished by none other then war! Im not at all attributing the racial violence in Sydney to islam but there is certainly anecdotal evidence to the contray.
Posted by consort, Friday, 23 December 2005 2:30:14 AM
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