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Could riots happen in Melbourne? : Comments

By Waleed Aly, published 21/12/2005

Waleed Aly explains why a repetition of the Sydney riots is unlikely to occur in Melbourne.

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Go ahead and make fun, I'm living in the real world here. For eg. a friend of mine got his head taken to by a gang of Lebs as if they were practising for the soccer world cup, while he was out doing a bit of window shopping with his fiance. This probably amuses you too, doesn't it?
Posted by Sebby259, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 6:03:27 PM
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Sebby259,
I have to agree with you on your observation, [see quote below] as this is what they have done in other countries where they have settled. Bankstown, Lacemba area has no beach front and if you take a swarth of territory toward the beach from there it stretches from Cronulla to Maroubra. Their agenda is to create fear in an area so that neighbours move out and real estate prices drop so they can buy property in the vacating area. They then set up local councils governed by Muslims and are able to introduce exclusive vacilities for Muslims; Like Muslim only beaches, and swimming areas.

The Muslim community in Melbourne have been more sucessful in having the Vic State Government listen to their requests for exclusive rights. Australians have assumed Australia will always hold its egalitarian character, so never questiond the introduction of Vilification laws that would be used by Muslims against common speech. But blasphemy is high on their agenda, and anyone who speaks ill [in their opinion offends them] of their prophet of holy book is guilty of violating shari'ah. If one was to analise who is vilifying who in public meetings in Victoria you would find plenty of established cases in Mosques. But Aussies do not listen to Arabic speaking Immams in mosques, and are not familiar with such divisive laws.

Quote, "It might happen. What happened here is that Leb gangsters tried to take over Cronulla, attempting to drive down real estate prices by committing violence and sexual assaults. They have their own name for Cronulla, that should give you an idea."
Posted by Philo, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 6:24:10 PM
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Waleed Aly and Irfan Usuf just create more problems for themselves and all Muslims.Just simply state that there is a violence and criminal problem within their community that needs to be fixed.There is no shame in admitting problems within your community.

Nearly every person in Sydney has witnessed,or knows of someone who has suffered at the hands of these gangs.To continue to deny this, reflects badly on all Muslims and to a degree anyone from the Middle East,which is wrong.

If you want us to trust you Waleed and Irfan,just simply acknowledge the facts and suggest ways that our Govt can remedy the situation.
Presently you have got the Iemma Govt scared and bluffed so they will only seek soft options.This will not help your community.

No,we are not like the French,we call a spade a shovel and will stare you straight in the eye and speak the truth as you shout racism.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 7:40:18 PM
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I live in the Sutherland Shire. If you wish to avoid race riots you need the following.

Policing against any anti-social behaviour. Police in NSW are scared of Lebanese gangs because they will not tolerate being harassed by police, any sort of discipline is racist. Police end up in trouble, or under personal threat.

Protest against any behaviour that denigrates women. Female victims are always sacrificial lambs in race relations. This has to stop. Always the alpha males rears his ugly head, either to rape woman or to defend them in a punch up. Tell them women are actually bowled over by a man of substance, a gentleman.

Lets teach our children not to drink so much, friends and coffee is taking hold not quick enough!

Finally be proud of who you are and make sure society accepts that, we have shame when we should be proud. Despite all our troubles we actually have fewer problems than most nations with far less immigration.

So if you are white be proud, this nation wouldn't be so attractive to others if you didn't put in the hard yards. If you are not white, be proud, this country would not be so attractive to others if you did not put in the hard yards. If you are a Lebanese muslim gang member, time to put in the hards yards mates. rite of passage to be a true blue.
Posted by Verdant, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 9:49:35 PM
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The majority of Australians are waking up to the unpleasant fact that there is a growing amount of interethnic-violence developing in our country. Most of us who come from Europe post WW2 could have predicted it. It was inevitable given the naiveté of the Australian politicians who devised the multicultural policies in this country.

I have always felt that they were being naïve. There is culture and there is nurture,- and both are not necessarily conducive to peaceful coexistence. The ethnic 'melting pot' is constantly simmering just under the surface and is easily overheated into a 'boiling pot' at the earliest provocation. And our media constantly provokes,- from cartoonists, to interviewers and commentators!

Recognising human nature means that multiculturalism, though a fine sentiment, can only work if we unite behind a core set of values, says Albrechsten (The Australian) and I agree.

Hence it matters little if some guys drink alcohol before they become violent, or before they may rape a woman in a bikini and others don't drink alcohol and keep their women covered up from head to toe. The criminal element in them, all seem to go out and fight, rape, deal in drugs and become criminals outside their homes and outside their own communities!

Those angry young men (and some women) who have a problem living in our modern, liberal, tolerant, gender-liberated and multicultural society, should try living in their parents' "old countries" for a while. It might enlighten them and straighten them out a little!
Hopefully, even the soccer-field may become a uniting force, rather than a divisive one, now that Australia is in the World Cup!
Posted by MiriamM, Wednesday, 21 December 2005 10:07:17 PM
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When 16,000 PLO including Syrians, Libyans, and Iranian mercinaries swooped down on the Christian town of Darmour Lebanon in 1976, screaming Allahu Akhbar, bombing, shooting, raping, hacking the totally innocent Christians, (the town was on a strategically valuable Highway) there was one incident where a Muslim Arab stood in the way of another who was about to Hack into a little girl and slaughter her.

That Arab is F.H. and IRF, so thanks you guys for standing in the way of the extremists, but the problem for us, is the other 15,998 who want to destroy us, our culture, our freedom and our independance in the form of the Gangs the police are so intimidated by, the creeping Sharia of Waleed and the ICV, Hume Council Mayor denying non Islamic food to 78% of residents, and the Extremists recently arrested.

A convoy of 60 carloads or so, is not a 'small bunch of marginalized idiots' it is a LARGE group of significant proportions specially when you consider that they were just the ones who 'acted' on their feelings that many others shared.

Verdant and Miriam have shared very accurate and balanced posts. Well done !

Law and Order 'was' the issue around 1995, now it is a far more serious problem. More like complete social breakdown.

-Solidify
...Australian Identity and Culture, Anglo/Euro with inclusiveness towards thos who integrate well.

-Strictly inform
...would be immigrants of OUR ways and Culture, with Residence for 20 trouble free years prior to citizenship granted.

-Selective Immigration,
...with those having a higher probability of anti social or anti Australian behavior (based on track record of their relatives here) on the bottom of the list.
Posted by BOAZ_David, Thursday, 22 December 2005 8:43:27 AM
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