coach, it is very unlikely that you are awakening anybody to any danger. The approach taken by yourself and other fundies and various other extremists lessens the chance that any "real" threat will be seen.

Did you ever get taught the story of "The boy who cried wolf" as a child? Your's and others continual refusal to deal fairly with issues involving muslims means that for many of us anything you say is suspect. Come in with some posts which do something other than promoting your own cause, maybe speaking out against the worst of the extremists, some support of posters who do not share your views when they come under unfair attack etc. Maybe some appologies to Scout and others. Show some kind of comittment to truth rather than a determination to promote your view of the world at any cost and some of us will pay more attention to what you have to say. So if you really have something worth hearing make an effort to tidy up the wrapping.

I don't see Waleed, Irfan, Fellow_Human and friends as any kind of threat and am unlikely to do so while they are for the most part polite and reasonable and those who oppose them are generally rude, unreasonable and very unwilling to deal fairly when their own interests are involved.

R0bert

'If you get stupid people drunk enough, make them defensive and paranoid with fridge magnets and politicians' lies about terrorists, inflame them with rants from Alan Jones and shock jocks, add a bit of neo-Nazi venom and the crowd will transform into that ugly sight on the beach.'
http://www.newmatilda.com//home/getArticle.asp?NID=174&AID=1231

It might happen. What happened here is that Leb gangsters tried to take over Cronulla, attempting to drive down real estate prices by committing violence and sexual assaults. They have their own name for Cronulla, that should give you an idea.

This upset local people, who were justifyably demonstrating against this invasion. So if Melb pple don't want this to happen, don't give the gangs a chance in the first place. If pple had risen up years ago, it would have never come to this. But the loony left always stick up for their immigrant constituency - they portray anyone with these opinions as racist in order to marginalise them. And it shuts pple up.

At least now this has happened, its highlighted the problem and now everyone KNOWS ITS A REAL PROBLEM. Blimey, if even die hard socialists like Germaine Greer can see theres a problem with Lebanese gangs, so can the rest of you.

AAh, Sneeky, so we are all racist bigots now hay, Might I just take the moment to say: WE TRIED TO TELL YOU.
Your son was lucky, there are a great many that were not so lucky.

Thank you Mr.RObert,

I am so sorry to have upset your sensitive eyes and offended your sensible mind. I know how you mean so very well and I also know which side you're on.

But perhaps - please Sir - could you be more specific as to where I may have not "...Shown some kind of commitment to truth".

Instead you use phrases like "any real threat", "deal fairly", anything you say", "promote your views".

I assure Sir that these are not my views alone.

Silence and denial may be your form of medicating but not mine.

Politely yours,
Coach.

Sebby, what an insightful and truly original perspective you bring to this discussion. I just can't wait for your next post. How do you think we should protect ourselves from this Lebonese invasion up here in Qld?