Irfan: The police reports were made - at least in the in incident I spoke of - what they did with them is any ones guess: the Age also knew of it but no reports were made - no photos, no wounds, no signs on sticks - no story.

My position is simple - there is the potential for a similar thing to happen in Melbourne - like Walled I think it is unliklely and even less likely to happen in the extreme way it did in Sydney - I dont believe it to be an issue if integration or Islamism - it is primarily men(boys)behaving badly.

There may be some that cloak their actions in religion or stupid jingoism - but some people don't need too much of an excuse to behave like idiots.

There seems to be a much more constructive dialogue happening in Melbourne at grass roots level - the local shock jocks are not as strident as their Sydney counterparts which helps.

I find it interesting that random violent acts 'from middle eastern looking youths' are considered part of a larger pattern, and are worthy of police intervention, but things like a recent fight on Melbourne rail between about thirty 19-ish white boys merely had the people in the train annoyed, rather than frightened.

It kind of seems that a climate of fear is somehow being created, where if the group of people are not predominantly white, then they are 'gang', whereas white kids are a 'group', and therefore somehow not threatening, which is weird. But then, I guess looking at recent history, that has always been the case to some extent- "dago eye-ties" "viet triads" etc. Anyway, just an observation, as a white kid.

The biggest side effect from this riot (a relatively insignificant event worldwide) is DO-GOODERerism. I mean we have posters on this very forum rallying to brainwash the masses through the media.

The riot was not about race. So all the twits with their trophy multi-culti, "we are all human" baloney, blame the anglo mentality need to address the real issue.

Two lifeguards got beaten up: this was no isolated event. It was one of many, the police did nothing and the people protested. Only problem now is the trouble makers are'nt targeted. There are no increased police patrols in Lakemba. The only people ridiculed and scrutinised are the anglo aussies. Costello said: "i consider wearing the flag as desecration when seeking to divide not unite". Good one moron, I see your comment as desecration of the real issue.

The protesters wore the flag in defiance of the Leb gangs who call them "skips" and "aussies" as an insult - not out of some white Australia mentality. The problems will continue because the latte set refuse to address the real issue - inconsistent law and order.

Melbourne has brawls between ethnic groups all the time. Go to Dandenong on a Saturday night. Multiculturalism works more smoothly in the more prosperous sections of society. The problems tend to surface in the lower socio-economic areas. These people have nothing to lose - a bit of ridicule from the pretentious powers that be means nothing.

I think islamists and their fellow victims need to remember Australia was very recently settled by convicts. It is unusual in this.

Our Convict Ancestors were themselves victims of slavery and injustice, but you will never hear POOR ME stuff, just pride in how we got up and got on and built a great country..

We don’t give a flying stuff if you have had a bad "childhood" or a "hard start", lots of us, all colours n creeds have had problems. All Aussie citizens have the rights to make what they will of their life.

To judge some as victims because they didn’t make it, is as silly as judging some as oppressors because they did.

Whining will get you no-where here. Victims are a joke to us.

As for Melbourne, it’s happening as usual there with the Santa attacks etc. Riots is just a new word for the ongoing mild(at the moment) civil war in the whole Western World

To dismiss that what we saw in Sydney recently would not happen in Melbourne is naïve to say the least.

It does not have to be on the same scale or manner. What we saw in Melbourne in recent years is much more terrifying than a few fist fights and car smashing – namely the anti-vilification law instigated by the muslim council of victoria against the two Daniels.

So what is a different kind of fight it is all part of the same religion applying just another form of jihad.

It may be helpful to re-read the quick-to-the-mark comments of our resident muslem fear diffusers Irfan and his Fellow_Human: Attack is their best defence – Denial is their only explanation.

For argument sake; Irfan writes:
>> There is also an integration problem involving a minority of Australians who think that anyone looking different to them or worshipping the same God in congregation on a different day is to be feared, hated and bashed.<<

No Irfan it is not just because you look different – I have no issues with racism – it is the different god that you worship that is giving me the chills.

And FH says:
>>Most of these ‘Arabs & Muslims’ gangs neither mix with the Arab community nor do they practice their religion.<<

Thank God (and Allah) for that – I hate to see those thugs recruited by the orthodox imams and turned into real exploding muslims.

I know this is not helping but stating the facts may awaken a few more people to the real danger Australia is facing.

I would like to see all people of goodwill in Australia focus on the truth of the situation - We cannot buy into the simplistic notion that somehow because young men of Lebanese/other ethnicity of Arabic background were involved in assaulting lifeguards, it gave anybody the right to turn on people from those communities.

The people at Cronulla would have been genuine had they held a `Reclaim the Beach for All` demonstration at Cronulla with police assistance and co-ordination of community groups. That they didn`t shows it was a case of mob hysteria and racism on the part of some of the participants. Others were drunk or simply felt threatened by the assaults but drew the wrong conclusions from them.

Let`s think before we label any anti-social or violent activity as somehow being part of any community. Every community has its problem elements and the more we focus on how supposedly it`s because of race or ethnicity, the more we create resentment that will fuel precisely that activity. As a white Australian I applaud the various Arabic communities in our country for their considered responses to the recent sad happenings in our country.