Irfan

I see a misunderstanding of Arab and Muslim but no hate.
I see bigotry and intolerance but no hate.
Most of all I see ignorance but no hate.

You could positively address that.

I too wish you a Merry Christmas, and the same to all others, especially to those with whom I disagree.

I don't believe in either the Christian god or the Muslim God. But, in true Aussie fashion I'll have 'a bob each way', just in case. I'd wish you a very merry conclusion to Ramadan, if it is appropriate. But in my ignorance I really don't know the sacred days and feasts your religion follows.

Ifran,
Celebrate this Christmas the coming of Messiah, as all wise men seek Jesus.
Qur'an 3: 43 - 51 [selected]: "And remember the messengers words to Mary. They said, "God has chosen you. He has made you pure and exalted you above womankind... God bids you rejoice in a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary. He shall be noble in this world and in the world to come, and shall be one of those who are favoured. He shall preach to men in his cradle and in the prime of manhood, and shall lead a righteous life. ... By God's will I shall heal the blind man and the leper, and raise the dead to life. ... I come to fulfil the Torah which preceded me and to make lawful for you some of the things you were forbidden."

We celebrate he is a word from God. We celebrate he is Messiah, noble and righteous in life, and a healer of the blind and leper and has raised the dead to life, and come to live the principles of the mind of God envisaged by the Torah and give us freedom from the diseases of sin . We celebrate he has given us freedom from the bondage of restrictive laws. Thank God he came! May our God give us wisdom in understanding His Word and revelation.
Blessings for this season of celebration.

Well I agree, Australia is and should be a secular state, where religion is but a lifestyle choice, no more. Religious tyranny, be it Catholic of Muslim, should not be accepted in our modern world.

That said, it cannot be denied that we are tribal by nature. Its part of having evolved as a social species. It means that we care about our tribe etc.

If Lebanese youths go nuts in Cronulla, as the news suggests, they
should not be amazed if Aussie youths thump them, thats not religious
its tribal. Evolutionary pscychology clearly shows that turning the other cheek is a dismal failure, despite what some of the godsquad say....

Muslims create their own problems, by wanting to be different. If they want special treatment in schools, special treatment at swimming pools etc, they should not be amazed if they are not accepted as part of the Aussie tribe. They should have lived here long enough to realise that the world will not end, if they go swimming like everyone else and join in the fun...

Wake up Australia. Cronulla is only the tip of the ice burgh, we have had enough of muslim gangs raping our women, attacking young boys, attacking anyone who is not muslims- as long as the muslims outnumber them. From now on, WE WON'T TAKE IT ANY MORE. Good on the boys at Cronulla, you made a statement. NO MORE, if you lebs wanna behave the way you have been getting away with UP TILL NOW, then you will suffer the consequences. So, start behaving responsibly and integrate- or get out to acountry more to your liking.

Irf,

I was disgusted by what I saw in Cronulla.

If groups of people set out to cause trouble, and are succesful, they should be sufficiently honourable to cop their lumps.

The lebanese gangs that caused the problem, ran and hid behind police when the folly of their actions was brought home to them.

THIS IS GUTLESS.

If this spreads now, it is not so much due to the average Australians intolerance of muslims, but more due to intolerance for bullying cowards. It is a dog eat dog world, and the craven kalebs are about to be et.

These groups have incurred the enemity of huge sections of our society, through their use of force and terror to intimidate. However it is now obvious that they run and hide when the shoe is on the other foot. This will result in enormous difficulty for muslims in Australia, it is now possibly to late for the muslim community to make a stand, and condemn the violence - because now they will experience it.

I do not condone the events at cronulla - but they were a predictable response to the muslims communities lack of respect for others - you may not now decry the unfairness of being subjected to the violence that results from your own lack of action.

Muslim bashing on these pages? hey hang on the failure of some to respect our right to live as we have is easy to find daily.
Very few Australians could in any way be blamed for feeling insulted by the actions of a few.
Politicaly corect fools may do as they wish but most have every right to think freely as they wish.