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Accept it - Australia is secular, liberal, democratic : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 8/12/2005

Irfan Yusuf argues Australia is a secular, liberal and democratic nation where anti-Muslim bashing should not occur.

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Irfan, you mentioned British genocidal thugs? What are you? The only genocide going on right now is your Muslim brothers in Sudan my friend, slaughtering blacks while you Muslims cry for Palestine.

It is these facts that make the ordinary Australian see right through you all. You complain about Palestine yet care nothing for suffering, only Muslim suffering. Where are the Arab groups helping the starving? Saudi's only do this on the condition that those helped become Wahabbi's

In Pakistan right now, the government is evicting thousands of Christians to make way for the homeless Muslims from the earthquake. How are people to view Muslims other than arrogant Nazi's? Do you deny that under Sharia, which is a system ALL Muslims believe is divinely inspired, Christians & Jews are second class citizens?

What about how non-Muslims are treated in Muslim nations? Saudi Arabia ? Iran ? It's shocking. Although, they are only following what the Koran says.

Why is it that at Cronulla beach it's the middle-eastern men who sexually harrass all the girls? Why are these traits so common to Muslim men? Why? Western Racism? Ha Ha Ha

Get serious about the issues Irfan. If you protest out the front of your leaders mosques, Hilali for one, I'll start to respect you. Until Muslims do this, we Australians are right to view you with suspicion. You see, we chase out our KKK. Unfortunately though, I believe that in your community, the KKK make up at least half of you all.
Posted by Benjamin, Saturday, 10 December 2005 3:12:57 PM
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Irf appears to hold present day Australians responsible for the acts carried out by some of our ancestors in the past. According to that school of thought, Muslims should also be held responsible for the past actions of other Muslims.

Lets see now - how about the Islamic world apologise and pay reparations for the 700 year illegal occupation of Spain? How about some reparations and apologies for the tens of thousands of Europeans captured and enslaved by Muslims? And perhaps the Muslim community in Australia could raise a large amount of cash for the crimes committed against Australians by Muslims. All the cowardly attacks, the gang rapes, the spitting and snarling at victims unable to defend themselves, like pregnant women and little girls. For example, my only son was attacked by a gang of seven Lebenese Muslims (the usual odds, 20+ against 3 [Cronulla Beach odds] or 7 against 1). My son nearly died, the blade came within a centimetre of his heart.

So to the Muslim comunity:

No cheques please, cash only.
Posted by dee, Saturday, 10 December 2005 6:02:52 PM
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Middle eastern Muslims are too tribal to assimilate into a diverse racial and religious society. Capturing territory for the tribe has thousands of years of intertribal conflict and is still the problem in their own homelands. Unfortunately their religion and the actions of the prophet is based in the same tribal warring context. Their concept of a peaceful society is when their enemy is dead, captured or silent
Posted by Philo, Saturday, 10 December 2005 11:25:29 PM
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Irfan, you are still making the mistake of using the past as a desperate lash to flog us poor old Aussies with.
It appears that you ,like most of your religious, live in the past, the world has moved on and ,I fear, left you all behind.
When you catch up you may see that Aborigines are now well favoured in this country, any problems are generally of their own making.
A bit like Muslims really.
Posted by mickijo, Sunday, 11 December 2005 3:27:10 PM
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In response to all those who hate me because of some historical accident of coming from a Muslim background, I have but 2 words: Merry Christmas.

And the same to the rest of you!

And try not to forget what Christmas is really about. It is about God showing His Mercy on the world by sending His Messiah to teach us about Divine love and mercy. I hope and pray we can show mercy and love toward each other, regardless of faith.
Posted by Irfan, Sunday, 11 December 2005 5:58:02 PM
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The problem of Middle Eastern gangs is not the "Johnny come lately syndrome" due to Bush's war on terror.I can remember these thugs in George St Sydney walking 4 and 5 abreast, pushing people off the pavement in the early eighties.Also Freshwater Beach where they took over half the territory through rough,aggressive play and foul language.People just took their families and moved on.No police attended.

We have been putting up with it for a long time.Why can't the Muslim leaders put pressure on the Iemma Govt to act?They certainly won't listen to the Skips because we are too racist and live in the wrong electorates.

Isn't it interesting that the Iemma Govt will only act in Cronulla when the Locals finally decide to stand up for themselves?So it is alright for the Muslims to bash the Skips,but we'll throw you Anglos in gaol if you try to protect yourselves.Yes they can fine us and make a profit,but the crims have theirs neatly tucked away and it costs too much to put them in gaol anyway.

These crims know police numbers are low and will continue in the same vein in other locations since they will only get a reprimand from our judicial system if they get caught.

Law and order is rapidly breaking down in this state.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 11 December 2005 6:12:39 PM
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