Redneck

Thanks for your last post. I found it challenging and well argued. I still have difficulty with the notion of murdering a person.

Cheers
Kay

Redneck,
I resent your racial slurs.If you can't keep your posts free of racial vilification maybe find somewhere else to rant.You have no idea how Vietnamese families work and the implication you make is offensive as well as being totally bloody ignorant.

The death penalty is abhorent but then that is the view of somebody from a relatively enlightened country. Singapore is not democratic and is certainly not particularly civilized--think Australia in the fifties.
Fifties thinking is still present among in Austrlia--think One Nation Supporters. Now think about persuading a bloody minded One Nation Supporter with a fifties mentality and you have some idea of the problem of dealing with Singapore. There is nothing anybody can do to save this young man however, one might be able to help make Singapore a slightly more civlized country and remember that in comparison with its Asian neighbours Signapore is relatively enlightened. A good place to start might be for liberally inclined Australians to abandon relativism and to be much more committed to enlightenment values.

Redneck, you have a very appropriate name. I can think of some other good ones too, but in the interests of trying to be polite will leave them out of here.

Do you have any idea about any of the things you are are talking about? Do you have any evidence for any of your claims? What is your source showing that burglaries dropped to almost zero in Queensland after two home invaders where shot dead? What is your source for the assertion that most repeat criminal offenders entirely lack empathy, compassion and remorse? Where is your evidence that Van Nguyen is a repeat offender? What on earth does the fact that California has built more prisons have to do with Australian crime rates? And even if it does have something to do with it, has building all those prisons (largely to house people convicted of drug offences, I believe) stopped people in California using drugs? Has hanging people in Singapore stopped people smuggling drugs through there? Perhaps they should introduce tougher penalties and hang them twice?

And what do you mean about our society killing "productive and innocent people" through neglect..if you are referring to the people who suffer through using illegal drugs, I hope you are equally concerned about the much greater number of people who die or have their lives destroyed by the legal drugs alcohol and tobacco? Perhaps we should string up the owner of the local pub? I reckon his products have killed a few Aussies over the years? Maybe he just hates white people and doesn't care if they die..

Anyway, I'm not silly enough to think that any of this will make a difference to you or like minded posters, but I reckon you've got a nerve talking about empathy and compassion when calling for the death of another human being. I hope life doesn't make you any bitterer.

Drink and drive and you're a bloody idiot. Smoke yourself to death and you can't say you didn't see the warnings. But when it comes to drugs somehow it's Van Nguyen's fault that "our kids" are in danger. He broke the law and should be in prison, but don't try and justify his barbaric murder by blaming him for the self-inflicted misery of every fool who ever stuck a needle in their arm.

To follow up on Hellothere's comment, in 2000, 97% of worldwide drug deaths were from tobacco and alcohol, that's almost 7 million deaths. Only 3% were from illicit drugs. How many people would argue we should blindly accept another country's laws if Australians were on death row in foreign countries for dealing in alcohol (or practising homosexuality, committing adultery etc) ?

I could say do the crime do the time , but everyone deserves a second chanceoes to show u dont mess with these countries with drugs I might think twice before travelling next time with my meds in toe