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By Gillian Handley, published 25/11/2005Gillian Handley argues Nguyen Tuong Van's death will make no difference to the drug dealers.
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Posted by memumza bighor, Sunday, 4 December 2005 10:35:00 PM
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I am sorry Kal but there are no rules prescribing when and where and whom shold observe or benefit from a minutes contemplation:
I would suggest the minutes silence in the Q'land parliament was primarily to recall the gravity of the circumstance surrounding the death of Mr V N - to contemplate the finality of hanging and think deeply about whether you supported the action or not. VN - not through his action has been elevated to a symbol of the abolitionist movement - why pour your scorn on his family for the action of the zealots rusted to that cause? So parents whose children die in the commisison of a crime or as a result of a sentence are not to have any compassion extended to them at all?- so their loss has no meaning? - her sorrow is as you put it is pathetic? - please tell me how she could have warded of the media scrum surrounding her sons execution - would a polite please go away worked? - dont think so. Perhaps she orchestrated the entire thing with Harry M Miller in the background. I have no idea if you have kids or not but in the event one of your hypothetical offspring did something wrong and was incacerated or worse - and some one said they where sorry for the circumstances you found yourself in through the actions of your kid and will suport you where they can - I suppose you would say no! no! spare me your concern I am not worthy! I deserve to mourn in isolation!. Dont think so. Posted by sneekeepete, Friday, 9 December 2005 12:24:16 PM
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sneekepete
I know I sounded harsh. I guess I have nursed far too many young people with drug induced psychosis. It has torn me apart listening to and watching their despair. I guess I have counselled far too many families bereaved by their child's drug induced, attempted or completed suicide. Peter Beattie sent an E_Mail which clearly stated that the Minute's Silence was for Nguyen. This E_Mail was read out on 4bc (an extremely reputable radio station in South East Q). He later tried to cover his tracks by saying that the silence was to draw attention to capitol punishment, vis a vis: hanging in this case. We will have to agree to disagree Cheers mate Kay Posted by kalweb, Friday, 9 December 2005 6:12:35 PM
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The ancient Sumerians probably knew the psychological and analgesic effects of opium. As far back as 1680, the physician, Sydenham wrote, ‘among the remedies which it has pleased almighty God to give to man to relieve his suffering, none is so universal and so efficacious as opium’.
Source: http://www.psa.org.au/media/PA~2.DOC Yes, the papaver somniferum plant is both beautiful in its flowers' appearance as well as the precious juice extracted from the flowers pods. The US-dominated INCB drives aggressive drug prohibition almost worldwide & in Asia its been said that the introduction of death penalties for drugs was linked to foreign aid from the US. Most drug-related crime is derived directly or indirectly from prohibitionist policies that drive the price up to extraordinary levels, making those of us who use this drug regularly or occasionally pay around $100 for a tiny amount of white or beige powder the size of a thumbnail or often less. I am confident that this ancient wonder drug will not ruin my liver, damage my brain or do any real permanent damage, except in overdose--another risk byproduct of prohibition which means a highly variable and unpredictable quality and potency in the marketplace. However, drinking heavily causes domestic and public violence, antisocial behavior, cancers of the esophagus, stomach and liver. But the alcohol industy is mates with government and commands much hidden leverage at the highest levels of politics. Posted by Inner-Sydney based transsexual, indigent outcast progeny of merchant family, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 6:04:10 PM
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Some people do not need drug inducement to activate Opioids 1-2-3. : Neurology.
But when a drug that alters the prossess of natural chemicals in the Opioid glands, disassembles its process, and then you have an outbreak of Schizophrenia, in a variety of levels. Eventually. Look at society today and the rate of mental Illness. Opioid glands are that, it is not a coincidence the name, but the opioid glands respond to natural stimuli, Natures intent, not Man made destructive buzzes as some may call it. They kill you, eventually or at the least, your mind. Drug use goes a long way further back than that: Try 3000 years and plus, when introduced as the norm, Catastrophic events in history have taken place. One of those catastrophic events is the advent of Leftist Minds that are on parallels with typical psychosis, worst of all, it is genetic. The effects are that bad, and that is what happens when certain chemicals alter the Biological process. That is not meant to insult anyone, that is FACT. The most recent and well documented is Communism, and Yes: Hitler, the Islam, and his co horsts, normal thinking people can not comprehend that Ideologue, it must be hereditary and a Neurological defect. Thats a Fact. Posted by All-, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 6:50:56 PM
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