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Nguyen Tuong Van - no ripples in the murky world of drugs : Comments

By Gillian Handley, published 25/11/2005

Gillian Handley argues Nguyen Tuong Van's death will make no difference to the drug dealers.

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It's been nigh on three years. He's now resmorseful. What a joke.

And there are suddenly 20,000 signatures? So? What does that mean?

You have and are putting your mother through hell.

I do not want you to be hanged. You deserve LIFE imprisonment in an Australian gaol. NEVER to be released.
Posted by kalweb, Saturday, 26 November 2005 9:45:32 PM
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Leigh,

Thank you for your comment. I did not describe, I did not recycle. What I did was to quote an article, which has been published in a Malaysian newspaper.

I am more than unsure that this Singaporean expert´s business will create less harm and "effect" to the victim hanged by so called Long Drop method. There exists literature enough about this sad item which should not be called "drivel".

Ergo: No claptrap, just a quoted icecold voice. By the way, in the second part of that article mentioned, they describe how like "drug lords" of that area stay in best customer-relationship with a Singaporean banking house. It´s absolutely sickening.

And it is in a way disgusting to find oneself reproached thinking about this crucial bellerent subject.

Morpho.
Posted by morpho, Sunday, 27 November 2005 2:22:11 AM
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To Kalweb.

Crime costs the Australian community an incredible $32 billion dollar per year. (Australian Institute of criminology, 2001) That is money redirected from schools, universities, hospitals, infrastructure, and scientific research, all of whom are desperately short of funds.

That cost of rising crime in western societies may be appreciated by the fact that the US state of California has opened 20 new prisons in the last thirty years and only one new university. The cost of incarcerating one high security prisoner in NSW is $70,000 dollars per year.

Graffitti alone costs the NSW State rail an incredible $60 million dollars a year to clean up. There is no graffitti problem in Singapore.

On the other hand, hospitals in the Sydney area are at "condition red" (crisis overload) seven days a week. Desperately sick people seeking treatment from casualty wards have ben turned away and some have been found dead in hospital car parks and toilet blocks. A Royal Commission found that dozens of patients at Campbelltown and Camden hospitals had died needlessly because of lack of care due to lack of funds. Companies providing medical equipment are refusing to extend normal 30 day credit to hospitals because so many are now financially bankrupt. One expectant mother was flown backwards and forwards accros the state of NSW for hours by air ambulance in a desperate search for a bed for her.

We as a society can no longer afford to kill our own productive and innocent people through neglect because we do not have the intestinal fortitude to do whatever is necessary to get rid of the criminals who have declared war upon our people and our society.

If the death penalty is inappropriate to the defence of our people in every circumstance, then logically, we must disarm the Australian Army right now and replace their Steyr assault rifles with frying pans.
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 27 November 2005 5:22:06 AM
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Morpho,

It was also printed in “The Australian”, and I repeat it is drivel, which you did recycle without checking its authenticity. Like you, your source has never been in a hanging shed.

Only true ‘tragics’ believe what they read in newspapers.

The ‘Long drop’ method, eh? Nothing to do with hanging, dear. The expression is used to describe an outdoor dunny.

And, one is disgusted to find oneself reproached, is one? This one wonders what one is supposed to make of a ‘bellerent’ subject. A word not familiar to one in this neck of the woods. One’s Macquarie and Roget don’t know it either.

We have enough of our own anarchists and reds in Australia, thankyou Morpho. Surely there is enough for you to comment on and whinge about in that total wreck, Europe.
Posted by Leigh, Sunday, 27 November 2005 11:31:30 AM
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Despite the overwhelming evidence Nguyen Van Tuong was found guilty of drug trafficking and sentenced to the gallows in Singapore next Friday - frustrated Polly's,journalist, jurist and a plethora of self-indulgent hypocrites, have ALL - ineffectively tried to overturn a Sovereign Nation's Legislative Powers, eg Singapore's.
Over weeks, I have read the greatest ' bleeding-heart' trash from people like Kevin Rudd, Phillip Adams, Madonna King et al, who have unabashedely, twisted statistics to suit private agenda's, and even tried to gain mileage by focusing on the grotesque details of death - by hanging. Journalism has sunk to new lows.
We, as a Sovereign Nation should know better. We resent unequivocally, anybody telling us how to behave - our sporting hero's, our culture, heritage. Tantamount to committing treason. ABSOLUTELY non-negeotiable.
Yet, there is abounding evidence, we have a penchant for rediculing other people's way of life - meddle in their LAWS,religion, customs and even to the way they dress- G forbid.
Remind me - we are a minnow in the Cosmo's. Economically not even among the G8 ! A parody. A sycophant of GB. Will we ever get past being the ' sheriff of the Pacific " or quote " the a---hole of the World " Paul Keating.
After the 2002 Bali bombing, there was a tumultuous uproar from the Ozzie public, when Ambrosi and cohorts were convicted, their sentences commuted. We bayed for the Death Penalty. Nothing less would suffice. Shrink's call it " selective amnesia " ??
This month, the US celebrated their 1000th execution since 1976 ! Florida still executes Drug traffickers.Until this year, the US were executing juveniles as young as 13 years !
China, Japan, Korea's, Vietnam, Malaysia and Indonesia, etc continue to practice Capitol Punishment.
The Stats and data analysis paint a grim picture of the inhuman treatment meted on the underclass, impoverished, drug-mules, destitute, and 'coloured'.
Having said this, please spare me a 'one-eyed', jaundiced, approach to G Handley's dictum.
Cheers
Posted by dalma, Sunday, 27 November 2005 11:52:00 AM
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Listening to Beazely and Rudd this morning was sickening. They are piously making this drug smuggler out to be an innocent, naive,unfortunate martyr when he was attempting to bring in drugs that could kill your kids and mine.
What is so wrong with these fools? Do they ever read the media to understand how the public thinks? Or do they intend to sit on the opposition for ever?
The Australian public hates drug traffickers, we want them stopped anyway possible.
The pollies are windbags with no idea.
Posted by mickijo, Sunday, 27 November 2005 1:23:21 PM
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