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A time when our religion belonged to us : Comments

By Bashir Goth, published 21/11/2005

Bashir Goth describes the Ramadan festivities he experienced as a child in Somalia.

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Scout

My daughter unwittingly gave it go too; wearing a hijab or head scarf to school.

She's a cross-over model and fashion's High Street cognoscenti,(of grade 2 - into the charming, yet esoteric, cult of 'bling').

For her - this season ... 'it is all about scarves!'

'Cool as;...'

But it was all sad for our young faddist.

"The boys all say I'm - 'just a bomb thrower!'"

...their twisted veil of of bias.

So seemingly, a major disappointment; likely a mar her naive 'pash' for fameż
Posted by denk, Saturday, 3 December 2005 10:55:35 AM
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denk, thanks for an awesome post. Beautifully described. The other bit that continues to occur to me is that there are parts of that culture which might be of relevance to us as we seek to make our communities healthier places. The bits I've read about the "medina" stick out without me having much understanding. The old saying about the baby and the bath water might be relevant.

Scout, again your "radical" approach is challenging and refreshing. I think this "conservative" would get some pretty strange looks if I wore a head scarf hijab style on the train (for a different reason than you did) and not sure I'm brave enough to acquire and wear the long flowing male robes favoured by Arab Oil shieks. I guess I'm already convinced of the level of antagonism from posts on OLO from some. The thing I'd like to try is a walk through some of those parts of Sydney talked about in other posts it see if it is as bad as some claim, no known area's like that in SE Queensland.

Have a great weekend folks.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Saturday, 3 December 2005 7:35:54 PM
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CHRISTMAS DOES BELONG TO US! STUFF THE AUSSIE MOSSIES!

As regular posters know, I never ever write in upper case - an indication of aggression and anger.

Yes, I am bloody angry. How dare a minority group of the Islamic faith suggest that Christmas should be toned down - and that the word should be replaced - "Festive Season".

I am so angry that I can barely write this. We let you pray 5 times per day, you have bloody prayer rooms at airports, and we acknowledge your Ramadam. No other religion has prayer rooms at airports. No other religion is allowed to stop their work practises for prayer.

We live in harmony with those of Jewish faith and Buhddism leanings. They do not try and take over our country!

OK moderates - come forward and defend this disgusting slam at old and true blue Aussie culture.

I am still fuming
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Sunday, 4 December 2005 9:18:54 PM
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Kay, whats that about? I heard a brief snippet on the radio on a similar line but have not heard the detail. Who has made the suggestion?

I won't be defending any genuine calls for the rest of us to conform to any religion's wishes or practice. My approach is very much for us to find a way to live together accepting the differences and learning from one another. Any muslim making a call such as your post suggests might as well line up with all the other intollerant types who don't want integration or acceptance for muslims into Australian society.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 4 December 2005 9:33:45 PM
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Please Kay don't let one single Muslim colour all. Should we judge all Christians by the extreme among them?

I am caucasian in appearance but not a Christian, when I was working in Department of Housing, many, many Muslims greeted me and wished me a happy Christmas.

I am really tired of the way allowances are made for aberrant Christians, yet when a single Muslim does or says the wrong thing hysteria breaks out.

I am tired of saying this too: there are good and bad in all people of all race, colours or religion. To generalise about a particular religion is the same as what was indulged in by Nazis against the Jews.

Now Kay, take a deep breath and chill out. If a Muslim has said anything like that s/he will no doubt be put in his/her place - by other Muslims most likely.

R0bert - thank you for your comments - your posts are increasingly a clear chiming bell of sanity in a storm of hatred.
Posted by Scout, Monday, 5 December 2005 1:15:53 PM
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Scout

It wasn't one single Muslim who said this. It was a group in Sydney who are launching a public debate to "tone down" Christmas and change the name. Sorry, I cannot recall the name of the group. I heard it in discussion on 4bc radio Brisbane. Yasmin Kahn (spelling?) knows the group.

I do not hate anyone. I have no experience of that feeling. Saying that I hold a feeling of anger is not synonymous with the notion of hatred.

Regards
Kay
Posted by kalweb, Monday, 5 December 2005 6:23:42 PM
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