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Being the wrong kind of Muslim ... : Comments

By Shakira Hussein, published 18/11/2005

Shakira Hussein argues moderate Muslims are as fearful of Muslim terrorists as non-Muslims are.

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Thank you Hoppa, for your statistics. But the problem of ethnic related crime is much higher than the published statistics indicate.

Comparing "ethnic crime" statistics against crime committed by "Australian citizens" is misleading. The main perpetrators of ethnic crime in Australia are first generation born ethnics who, according to a senior NSW policeman interviewed on TV, "Identfy more with their parents former homeland than the parents themselves."

This attitude was clearly displyed by the attitudes of the Muslim race hate rapists, almost all of whom were born in Australia, that they were raping Australian girls because they were Australians.Some girls were asked if they were Australians first and when the girls aswered in the affirmative, they were attacked and raped. The girls were called "Aussie sluts" and "Aussie pigs" during their ordeal.

It is clear from these incidents that some people born in Australia are not Australians at all and they do not even wish to be considered Australian. Therefore, ethnic criminal behaviour can not be measured by comparing it against crime committed by people "born in Australia."

A more reliable indicator of ethnic criminal behaviour can be discerned by the ABS publication "Prisoners in Australia" where the ethnicities of prisoners can be compared from country of birth. It is clear that incarceration rates from North European countries is low campared to several notorious, crime prone ethnicies.

The incarceration rate (per 100,000 population) of criminals born in Britain is 59.2. But for Vietnam it is 362.3. For Laos 266.6. For Lebanon 188.4 and for Romania 535.4.

It is clear that immigration of certain ethnic groups is a major factor in Australia's incredible $32 billion dollar crime bill.
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 20 November 2005 6:26:13 AM
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Anyone who excuses a rapist, for any reason is a sick person.

Everyone is all appalled by the Catholic Church's attitude and support for its paedophile priest.

So

What is the difference betwean paedophile priest and a rapist?
- the age of the victim, nothing else.

Anyone who thinks any man can discard his responsibility for his own actions because a woman dresses a particular way has the same twisted view and lack of values as those who coverup for some one who abuses children.

We grow and develop as individuals by making our own decisions and living by the consequences and outcome of those decisions. This Shiek Fiaz Mohammed, like the Church of Rome, has displayed the wishy-washy, spineless attitude which is contemptible in individuals and corrupting in institutions.

However, I would also point out to Shakira Hussein who wrote the article -

Whilst she gives a good impression of a jumbo jet landing at an airport (ie alot of whining going on) about more muslims being the victim of muslim extremists than non-muslim (so what - most IRA victims were Irish), individual peoples attitudes to the hijab, All that is totally irrelevant. The important thing is - many wrongs do not add up to a single right.

If muslims want to participate fully in Australian Life, they need to get this fact straight -

Whilst free to follow their own religion, they are a religious minority and alot of us could not give a toss about their religious values in this secular society.
Australia will never, ever be a Muslim country (in fact Muslim religion will become an even smaller minority over time as they lose membership to the secular state) and if Muslims cannot handle that fact - I suggest they find somewhere which is Muslim dominated and live their - in peace and harmony maybe under shari law - where they can stone women to death for adultery etc. and were they can live with what passes for "cultural values" closer to their own.
Posted by Col Rouge, Sunday, 20 November 2005 6:57:05 AM
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I grow a hard shell ,every single time a Muslim leader gos to print, or speaks in public about terrorism, every time.
Every time we westerners, Australians , non Muslims are asked to share the blame for terrorist events.
Why must I share the blame for education that plans hatred for me and my country as we are and always have been?
Accountabilty for that hate driven education, for a minority who insult Australias warm welcome to a better life must come from within the Muslim comunity.
Is it not strange that political corect themes say I should not expect intergration into Australian way of life for all muslims?
Yet some actualy expect [ a few but too many] that I must adopt a relidgion not my own, and a way of life never to be execptable to me?
The answer will come from within the Muslim comunity I have faith in that, but please end this rubbish that it in any way is our fault.
And one last thing, some lie to us so freely that its hard to ever think they could tell the truth.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 20 November 2005 7:19:57 AM
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Kay, good luck with Heidi - I'm glad to see something really positive happening.

BD - excellent point about achieving the aim of the religion within a local context eg dress style. Likewise with your earlier comments about what constitutes modesty being somewhat cultural.

Yabby, great post. When you grasp the simple fact of geographical arrangement of religion it makes certainty about any religion a bit hard to swallow (other than the certainty that there is no god who reveals herself/himself/itself to humankind).

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Sunday, 20 November 2005 8:17:00 AM
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Now this is interesting evidence to the Simpleton racist accusers, we have no need to discover why they lie to protect their interests, it is worse when fellow people condone the lie and compound the effect by labeling the epistemological
Read this and Weep the reality deniers: The real camouflaged racist’s and Agenda driven psychopaths.
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/mass_migration_destroys_humanity/
Posted by All-, Sunday, 20 November 2005 9:32:35 AM
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Barry

You are right and wrong.

Tight jeans and head scarfs, I like that. There should be more of it.

You are wrong.

The Muslim religion, the Roman Catholic religion, the Protestant religions, and the Jewish religions can all be shown to be apostate. Their works are the works of apostasy. But there is a true God of Heaven and earth, so Muslims, Christians and Jews should all try to find that God, not as a group, but by their own individual search. Seek and you shall find. God searches your heart, you could find Him there.

The Law of God is summarised by the ten commandments and the ten commandments can be condensed into the two great commandments.

1.Seek the Lord your God with all your heart and all your mind.
2.Treat your neighbour as you would have your neighbour treat you

The Muslims are taught lies about Jesus Christ. The Roman Catholic church is dammed by prophesy. Jews reject the Christ, Protestants are a mixed bag but all reject the teachings of Jesus Christ in favour of what they perceive as the superior alternate teachings of the apostle Paul. All are in the same boat. All follow men and their teachings instead of the true shepherd, Jesus Christ and His teachings. Yet it is these religions to whom Jesus Christ says, or has said, come out of her my people.

The lead man from the 'A Team' once said, “The earth is the insane asylum of the universe”, but I believe that the earth's role is broader. The earth is the place where God imprisons fallen angels and fallen archangels pending eternal destruction except for some individuals redeemed.

If you want to know more then read my book.

You are right.

Multiculturalism has failed. We Need to put our foot down and say enough is enough or else we will have the same problems as Europe, if it is not already to late. I am worried about the flow of Afro-non-Americans into our country as refugees.
Posted by GoldBrick, Sunday, 20 November 2005 9:37:14 AM
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