Rainer, our economy is a tad more complex than your musings.We are an enormous land with a minute population.Considering all the socialists nonsense over the last 30yrs we have managed to keep the productive motivated and on the treadmill of responsibility even with all the leftest BS that feeds off human weakness rather than our determination and courage to achieve.

In short the reality is this,our economy is attractive to others because of its relative wealth, generous social security system and natural resources that we are flogging off to maintain our diminishing standard of living.

To have an open border policy which you are proposing is a recipe for anarchy and poverty.You cannot have wealth without discipline,ethics/morality ,or a singular unifying language that gives us social cohesion.The change to our society has been too rapid.We are now at the crossroads.It time to take stock and see what the majority of Australians want.Regardless of how you view the ideal Australia,we need to take the predominate culture into to account,since it is they who have provided this stability and security that many want, without the pain of evolution.Our relative affluence and freedoms did not happen by accident.My parents and their ancestors fought hard for this freedom and just opening our borders on a whim of a few bleeding hearts,shows disrepect for those who fought so hard for you to have the freedom to bite the hand that feeds you.

Rainer,you're just an immature trendy on a mission to secure your own agenda in the limelight of our media.There are many more suffering Australians who deserve our attention,however from your perepective,not contraversial enough to highten your profile.

Read a little wider in Australian history and you'll find that my ancestors fought and died for this country too, on this soil, fighting for their country. They also provided much of the free labor that built this nation. The cattle would have never survived without them. I'm not advocating a free and open border, I'm advocating a humanitarian and compassionate approach to how we treat refugees and asylum seekers. Despite the lack of civil and political rights and privilege that my people have in this country we understand what it means to be persecuted for religious and political beliefs and practices and we can and do empathize with others who want flee these conditions to simply become Australian, something my people have only enjoyed as rights of citizenship since 1967. So before you call me a trendy socialist bear these facts in mind. If you haven’t worked it out yet I'm Indigenous. But alas, I'm not expecting this to have any effect on your narrow minded and bigoted views.

See this link to see how my ancestors helped build this country:
http://www.antar.org.au/stolen_wages.html
See this link to see how my ancestors fought for this country:

http://www.abc.net.au/frontier/

Rainier, should'nt we resolve our social problems with the Indigenous population before add to these problems with other alienated minority groups?

Rainer, thanks for exposing yourself as to who you truly are. As a "mongrel" Australian, vintage import circa grannies (2nd generation only, and now living in a regional town, no lane or road named after me!) I do ponder during the daytime about who's posting what and where from. Postings and life experiences make me think on what indigenous Australians have thought about immigrants (circa 1776) Which lead me to think that no one has ever asked the viewpoint of an indigenous person about what their community thinks of more refugees whilst we run around with our rights to citizenship/passports in the air to justify why you should be born here./or escape. Thanks for the insight, and now I think I know what the wavy bits are about.

Di, I'm glad you like my FISH!><((((º>`•.¸¸.•´¯`•.¸><((((º>

Yes, it’s been interesting posting here without revealing. The prevailing subtext and assumption in narrative here is that we are all white, Anglo Saxon and so called ordinary Australians. We are not - and we don't share the same history or understanding of being Australian as others. This diversity should be seen as a strength rather than a weakness!

Before others jump on me with their blind folded perspectives let me say that I don't purport to have a higher moral standing because of my ethnicity but I do expect other Australians to have a higher moral and humanitarian principles & standards because of our joint history.

What angers me in this discussion is that the Cult of disremembering" or "The Great Australian Silence" continues to prevail here in this forum ---and that its logic and rationale is being applied to refugees and asylum seekers.

Locking kids in detention centres continues this disremembering.

Davo, From reading your other posts, I don't think your question is sincere so you'll have to do better than that mate.

You're all filthy do-gooders the lot of youse. Now shut up so that I can get some sleep.