Di,sorry that I made you feel stupid ,that wasn't my intention.Please accept my apologies.

"Two intelligent parents don't necessarily produce intelligent protegy"

Well at least he's honest.

Not sure why y'all have to get so personal... Kinda ruins a good debate, and stops others from reading on.

It will be interesting to see the results of all this talk - and how the proposed Bill is handled in parliament.

Any decision about these people is a good one - it just has to change somehow - one way or the other.

It is a good start getting children out from behind the wire - let's see what happens. It is just a tiny baby-step in the right direction. We cannot become complacent with these peoples' lives.

John Marsden wrote

"We cannot be Australian unless we make other people un-Australian"

From Griffith REVIEW Edition 8 – People Like Us

Rainer,your John Marsden is a conradiction of terms."to make Australians ,unaustralian," does not necessarily mean an evolution of our society upon which we all agree upon.

We need an evolution of the collective consciousness,not revolution of impulsive minority groups such as yours ,that doesn't appreciate this moment in time upon which you can indulge yourself because of all the sacrifices of our forebears.

Rainer we either build upon our strengths through evolution or suffer the chaos of anarchy.

Arjay, whatever.