Glad to register your interest Timithy!

To answer your question, I don’t see any possibility of the Ute “R” Us device being abused any more (or less) than happens with the real thing, and as with the real thing, you’ll always know the child is yours!

Normal constraints and medical ethics apply. You would be emotionally and financially responsible for your child, without the risk of assessable child support, ever. You are guaranteed resident parent status as much as is possible within our legal framework (e.g. I read recently that a divorced father in Italy was forced to separately maintain the family dog, so therefore, within legal constraints).

The cost of the Ute “R” Us device may also be prohibitive to those unable to financially support their children. Ownership of the device will be limited to one per client. Clients like Michael Jackson would also be filtered out by the interview and psych test.

In regards to Timithy's comment

"Nature does find a balance, and many of the people who like to try and indoctrinate other men and women with false notions and men-hating attitudes will not find a mate and pass on their genes. That is nature’s way of ultimately finding a balance."

Unfortunately, nature has nothing to do with what is happening with IVF legislation in this country, especially in Victoria.

It is now perfectly legal and becoming increasingly socially acceptable for these men-hating women to pop down to the clinic and arrange to be artificially inseminated with the full knowledge that the child will grow up without a father.

So the men hating genes, and I'm sure a good dose of men-hating propaganda, are passed on to another generation by circumventing any natural balance which could occur.

And of course this type of situation will skew any future studies about housework - women will be doing it all in these households!!!!

Had a good laugh over the blokes arguing about washing machines. The fact is women do more housework because they approach it differently, and men are unable to recognise the difference. This is nothing to do with fair or unfair, its hardwired.

Try the "pick-up test". Take a busy working family with children, where socks, toys and other domestic clutter will normally be still all over the floor when the family walks in the door at the end of a hard day at work and school. Women will automatically pick up whatever is in front of them on the floor, and be sorting, ordering and replacing, at the same time as they are making the dinner, talking to kids, tidying up the bedrooms, and so on. Men will walk over the top of anything on the floor (watch them), but if they are so inclined, will go out and mow the lawn, make the dinner, take out the bins, or go down the shops and buy the milk, etc.

Men will then say they are doing the same amount of housework as women because it took them a similar period of time. They are wrong. As a generalisation, men usually do one big thing at a time, whereas women do multiple tasks which are very hard to distinguish and count statistically. Women know this instinctively, but are rarely able to explain it successfully to men. The argument is unending.....

What to do? Two income families could perhaps forgo the SUV and the laser TV, and help solve the unemployment problem by hiring domestic help once or twice a week. When the big jobs (vacuuming, washing, kitchen, bathroom and toilet cleaning, lawns mowing, pruning and hedging etc) are taken care of by the domestic help, only the daily "picking up" remains....then watch who does it....

The usual suspect-
Perhaps the issue of IVF has not been discussed in this forum, but as can be seen in a recent article at
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,11907794%255E23289,00.html there are a whole range of physical and mental health problems, as well as economic and moral issues attached to IVF. Personally I believe that IVF is being driven by monetary reasons as a business or an industry, rather than for health or moral reasons.

One of the moral issues mentioned in the Australian newspaper article is whether a woman with a genetic disorder,(which means that she cannot have children naturally), should have IVF as she could pass that genetic disorder on. In this case it could be best for the child if the couple adopted instead.

This also raises the moral issue of whether or not a woman with man-hating attitudes should have IVF, because she is likely to pass those attitudes on to a child that does not have an immediate father. My guess is that these moral issues are not discussed in men-hating organisations that rely heavily on indoctrination, data from highly biased research, generalisations etc.

Grace –
You made a lot of generalisations there – Not many facts from any reliable research I have seen.

A considerable amount of research has been done on improving worker productivity in the work place, together with research on computerisation, CAD/CAM systems, SCADA systems etc to automate factory processes. To my knowledge almost no formal research has been done on improving housework productivity.

To solve the “perceived” problem of excessive housework, then perhaps it best that people should stop generalising or trying to malign men (as I thought this was sexist and something not to be encouraged by the feminist movement) and instead be calling for research on how to improve housework productivity (government subsidised of course)

I have developed a variety of methods to reduce the time spent on housework, and as I have mentioned earlier in this forum, I do 1hr housework and 1hr cooking per day. I think I could reduce this down even further if I wanted to.

The present house I live in is rented and is regularly inspected by an agency representative, who has never found the house untidy or dirty. I have told the representative that if they can't contact me before hand to arrange an inspection, then just let themselves in and carry out an inspection as the house is nearly always the same.

I have done an enormous number of different tasks in my life (from building a house to programming SCADA systems) but I don't complain about hosework because there is nothing to complain about.

Myself and my child are rarely ill, to the extent where I have been considering why I pay nearly top rate private medical insurance when neither of us have hardly used it.

Grace pettigrew is sure to find soe comfort in research that shows that her picking up and gathering skills are appreciated and sought after.

According to an article published in The Age yesterdy, written by Maureen Dowd, a Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist with The New York Times, men prefer to marry those below them in the pecking order. Dowd observes trends showing “famous and powerful men took up with the young women whose job it was to tend to them and care for them in some way: their secretaries, assistants, nannies, caterers, flight attendants, researchers and fact-checkers.” She backs up her arguments with a recent study by psychology researchers at the University of Michigan.

She also refers to a second study by researchers at four British universities that found “a high IQ hampers a woman's chance to get married, while it is a plus for men. The prospect for marriage increased by 35 per cent for guys for each 16-point increase in IQ; for women, there is a 40 per cent drop for each 16-point rise.”

I always thought that it was women who sought to marry up in order to ensure the best chance of survival and security for themselves and their offspring. This would make some sense in the context of evolution. But regardless of whether women prefer to marry up, or men, down, the result is the same. Mismatches all the way down the line, with no matches for the top women (at least according to Dowd), and no matches for the males at the bottom. Presumably the males at the bottom, are also threatened by those women above.

Wouldn’t gender equality be easier to achieve if we married our equals in the first place? Wouldn’t it invalidate half the power/oppression arguments?

Here’s the link for those interested - http://theage.com.au/news/Opinion/Its-fans-men-want-not-partners/2005/01/14/1105582711465.html

Men are from Planet Earth, Women are from Planet Earth.