The U.N., the unelected swine.

However, the perpetrators of the U.N. dictatorship, are the elected swine!

Maintain your dignity, Don’t vote!

What the UN "needs to do" is bugger off, disband.

David Singer is one of those who does not want to acknowledge the underlying reasons why Jews have been historically widely hated. Including noting around 100 instances over the last 1000 years where cities and countries have evicted them. ie The view some Jews have of themselves as God's chosen people - or for atheists just the "chosen ones" to the extent they regard it as acceptable to do dirty things to goyim or non Jews that is to their own advantage if think they can get away with it. This even sometimes includes to "stab in the back" someone who had helped them and thought they were friends. Having seen this first hand with people I knew, I am well aware of the all time classic. The state of Israel has largely developed - on stolen Palestinian land due to enormous amounts of aid from the United States. Yet during he Six Day War of 1967, its Zionist government ordered an attack against the unarmed surveillance ship. the USS Liberty off the coast of Egypt. Obvious aim was to sink it quickly including killing crew of around 300, blame the Egyptians and have the US - which had been neutral enter the war against them. Fortunately its aim did not succeed. Was discovered but due to strong Jewish influence in the US, story was largely hushed up. Thanks to the Internet and declassification of military documents, is now easy to check out the sordid details. Anyway, seems to me that to overall reduce the problem of anti semitism which Jews who have done nothing wrong sometimes suffer from, what is needed is more properly targeted anti semitism against those who do things that makes others hate Jews. Sometimes regarding this, decent Jews are in the best position to act. Now regarding current behaviour by what amounts to the Criminal Apartheid Zionist Settler State in Occupied Palestine after a long festering sore against it has erupted, note how many Jews around the world are involved with protests against it.

Not everyone who disagrees with Israel is a Jew hater! And quite disingenuous to label all who disagree with some of the Iraeli activities or polices is automatically a Jew hater!

That said, Irael retains the right to defend itself!
Alan B.

If standing up to people who think bombing thousands of innocent people is ok, then I'm happy to be called a Jew-hater and anti-semite.

Israel themselves writes the script.
Israel is dropping the bombs and its supporters criticise anyone who doesn't agree with Israels actions.
- Well I disagree.

If that's the price of standing up against the needless killing of tens of thousands of women, kids and elderly, I'll consider it a badge of honour.

You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting and defending the murder of children.

Oh and btw, "...the failure of the United Nations (UN) to cooperate with Israel by evacuating Gaza's children, women, the sick and the elderly to safe havens outside Gaza"
- Umm, that's a war crime - and you're supposed to be a lawyer?

Under Article 8(2)(b)(viii) of the 1998 ICC Statute, “the deportation or transfer [by the Occupying Power] of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside [the territory it occupies]”, constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts.
I doubt Netanyuhu will be issued with an ICC warrant like Putin was.

But Israel doesn't seem to have any problem with war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Israel has been doing heinous stuff for years and uses a US veto and a bought and paid for US congress beholden to AIPAC to embolden itself with the impression that it can do whatever it wants, and is taken aback and blames everyone else when it can't have its way.

Israel turns Gaza into a giant cemetery, and somehow it's the UNs fault.
Israel is an apartheid child murdering terrorist state, and I hope the entire Israeli government faces Nuremberg type trials in an international court.

#warcrimes #crimesagainsthumanity #gazaholocaust

http://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1721603360183271639
"We're going to kill you all!"
- maybe sounds a lil bit 'anti-Palestinian'?
How come 'anti-Palestinian' isn't a word too, seems unfair?

http://twitter.com/FiorellaIsabelM/status/1716937304030523879
What's going on in Tel Aviv right now - Party!

http://twitter.com/CensoredMen/status/1721685282674585954
Israeli children writing messages of hate on missiles

http://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1722084985044394335
17 Israeli soldiers and 5 civilians rape an 11-year-old on an Israeli airbase

Who's raping who exactly?
I heard the IDF routinely rape Palestinian women and film it in order the get them to inform on others in fear of the video being released and being stoned to death.

No good claiming that Israel is at fault in waging war.
If you are stupid enough to attack a country that is more powerful
and better armed than yourself, you get what you deserve.

We have a problem right here in Australia.
I saw the videos of the Palistinian parades that had motor cycle escorts.
The police were too frightened to pull over all those motorbikes that
were not displaying number plates.
Take your number plates off and see how long before you are pulled over.
It is about time the police cracked down on all this defiance of the
law as it is tactic that has been used very successfully in the UK,
France, and Germany. The police in those countries have been emasculated.

Anyway this Palestinian cause is based on a lie.
The land did belong to the Jews thousands of years before Islam was invented.
The Arabs think it is their land because they seized it in AD737.
Islam tells them that once held by muslims it is Islamic land forever.
Those two lines are what is behind all this upheaval.
It is why it becomes a religious war, not just a war over possession.

Dear Bezza,

The foundations for Israel's existence and why it should remain are solid enough:
there's no need to further "support" them with fiction, which once exposed only weakens Israel's international standing.

«Anyway this Palestinian cause is based on a lie.»

Indeed, total nonsense, so where is the need to add incorrect statements of your own?

«The land did belong to the Jews thousands of years before Islam was invented.»

No more than 1,400 years is not "thousands", that's when any buds of Jewish "identity" started to develop - Judaism as we know and could recognise today, only developed much later, between the 8th and 12th century.

«The Arabs think it is their land because they seized it in AD737.»

They did not.

I assume you are referring to the conquest of Jerusalem in the year 637, not 737.

The conquering Arabs were few, they were fighters - not a population.
They only left a small guard in Israel while the rest continued to conquer other lands (Turkey, Egypt, Libya). Further, they were Arab but not Muslim: Islam still did not exist at the time.

«It is why it becomes a religious war, not just a war over possession.»

Not all Israelis are Jews.
Not all Jews are Israeli.
Not all Arabs are Muslim.
Not all Muslims are Arab.
Most of both Jewish Israelis and Arab "Palestinians" are not even religious.

And if you take the Jewish scripture at face value, then the Jews are supposed to now be in exile, being punished for their sins. They are not to take back their old land until God forgives them.

Israelis, even when they happen to be Jews, are not there BECAUSE they are Jews. They bought the land, with money but also with their blood, sweat and tears, they built it, cultivated it including its uninhabitable desolated parts, then successfully defended it. Israelis have their distinct culture, and while it incorporates some Jewish elements, it also incorporates local elements in common with the so-called "Palestinians".

That Israel deserves to live and thrive need not depend on them being Jewish.

Yuyutsu;
In the rein of Augustus the Romans had troubles with the Jews
in Jerusalem and indeed Pontious Pilot was asked by the Jewish priests
to do something about Jesus Christ.
In ad 47 the Romans expelled the Jews from Jerusalem.
I think that was the time when many Jews went to Europe with the
Crusaders in their ships.
You might clarify that for me.
Yes, I did mean 637ad.
I am a bit confused by your reference to 1400 years as the beginning of the Jews. Either you or I are confused there. eg 1400 yrs ago.
Islam was founded before 632 when Muhammad died.
I have seen suggestions that the Jews were a sect of the Canaanites
that lived in that area before 3000 years ago.
I do not see where I posted a lie.
I am no expert on Middle East history but I have read how Christians
and Zoroastrians all declined rapidly after the Arabs took over in Mesopotamia in the 7th century

Yuyutsu; whoops, I was referring to;
there's no need to further "support" them with fiction,
not as I said a lie.

I think any time after ad1000 can be considered "modern" times as
science was starting to make major progress and the printing press
was coming.

MOX,
The reason the Jews were unpopular in Europe was because they
were the major bankers. You only have to watch our TV news etc
to see that our bankers are not very popular !

Dear Bezza,

«In the rein of Augustus the Romans had troubles with the Jews
in Jerusalem and indeed Pontious Pilot was asked by the Jewish priests
to do something about Jesus Christ.»

Such "troubles" were routine and common in every Roman province.
Assuming Jesus was in his early 30's, that was about 40 years before the great Jewish rebellion, so it is hardly related.

«In ad 47 the Romans expelled the Jews from Jerusalem.»

In AD 70, when the Jews rebelled.

Further rebellions took place later - read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish%E2%80%93Roman_wars

«I think that was the time when many Jews went to Europe with the
Crusaders in their ships.»

The crusaders were between the years 1096 and 1300.

While the Jews of Jerusalem were taken to Rome after the destruction of the temple in the year 70, many left gradually later for economic reasons, and most of those who remained gradually converted, first to Christianity, then to Islam... to become today's "Palestinians".

«I am a bit confused by your reference to 1400 years as the beginning of the Jews. Either you or I are confused there. eg 1400 yrs ago.»

That is just under 1400 years between the times of Jewish King Josiah and Muhammad.

«Islam was founded before 632 when Muhammad died.»

That is what the Muslim Hadith claims. Science shows a very different picture. At the time of Muhammad's death, those to later become Muslims were a Christian sect. The Quran and with it the separation from Christianity came only in the 790's and finalised only around the year 1000.

«I have seen suggestions that the Jews were a sect of the Canaanites
that lived in that area before 3000 years ago.»

The Judeans and the Canaanites were one and the same.
Of course the Judeans had human ancestors, of course they did not descend straight from the monkeys, but until King Josiah they had nothing that we could call "Jewish" about them, including their god.

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«I do not see where I posted a lie.»

Let's call it a "myth" rather than a lie, because lies can only be made deliberately.

The common myth is that Judaism existed intact as a separate culture/nation/religion for 3500 years.

«I think any time after ad1000 can be considered "modern" times as
science was starting to make major progress and the printing press
was coming.»

The print press was invented by Gutenberg around 1440.

«The reason the Jews were unpopular in Europe was because they
were the major bankers.»

Evidence of Jew-hatred can be found as early as the Roman lawyer Cicero, 106-43 B.C., that is long before banks existed.

Hello Yuyutsu, thanks for the history lesson !
Yes, it is all very complicated.
On ABC Mrs Albonesie the UN Lawyer kept referring to Palestinian land
occupied by the Israelis.
Does that infer that when the Roman Army expelled the Jews from
Judea that their title to the land expired ?
Re where they went, of course the crusaders came much later. Was it
North Africa most went to. One tribe I read went to India.

The assertion that the land is theirs by the Israelis is behind all
this Middle Eastern trouble.
The moslems beleive that land once occupied by moslems remains
moslem land forever. I have not seen a firm reference to that claim
yet, so I do not know the truth of it.
If however it is widely believed it explains why a two state solution is impossible.
What a mess, the ME has imposed on the rest of us !

Dear Bezza,

«Does that infer that when the Roman Army expelled the Jews from Judea that their title to the land expired?»

The Romans never expelled all the Jews, only those from Jerusalem.

«Was it North Africa most went to.»

Jews left Israel to many places, gradually due to economic pressures. Not all of them left.

«One tribe I read went to India.»

Some Jews went to India, yes, but the whole story of "tribes" belongs to legend, not to reality.

According to Biblical legends, Judea and the kingdom of Israel to its north had common ancestors (Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), and while Judea consisted mainly of the tribe of Judah, one of the sons of Jacob, the kingdom of Israel consisted of the tribes of the other sons of Jacob, Judah's brothers. These other tribes were exiled by the Assyrians some 100's of years before the Babylonians expelled the Judeans, and another legend says that the ones in India are from the tribe of Menasheh, another son of Jacob.

Archaeological research refutes that legend and tell us that Israel and Judea were unrelated kingdoms.

«The assertion that the land is theirs by the Israelis is behind all this Middle Eastern trouble.»

You may be interested to know that the first Zionists did not think so.
They just decided to BUY that land and make it theirs, with money, sweat and determination. They planned for the local Arabs to join them in creating a wonderful new modern and liberal state, based on their common ancient culture, but were surprised and disappointed by Arab resistance and thus also paid for their land with blood and tears.

«The moslems beleive that land once occupied by moslems remains moslem land forever.»

The Quran can be read in many ways: this is one way to read it if that's what one wants to believe in.

«If however it is widely believed it explains why a two state solution is impossible.»

The extremists on both sides prevent it.
There once used to be less of them and then it was possible, but they procreate faster.

Regarding ancestral claims to Palestine: Have seen reports that DNA tests show a large proportion of Palestinians are descended from people who lived there in Biblical times. Including Palestinian Jews. Also, most relatively recent immigrant Jews are not. Some of their ancestry has been described by detractors as the "Khazarian Mafia."
Rough outline regarding history of this: Was a kingdom of Khazaria in areas including Eastern Ukraine and Georgia over 1000 km north of Palestine. Apparently neighbouting Russians and Persians got sick of rogue behaviour there in around AD 750 and forced it to adopt an Abrahamic religion to try and improve ethics of people and rulers. Judaism was selected. Anyway, around 1250 AD behaviour was bad enough to prompt Russians and Persians to invade again. Apparently many of the Khazarian Jew ruling class escaped and fled to various places around Europe where they settled. Then in 1916 during WW1, Arabs helped the British evict the Ottoman Empire from Palestine. While the war was somewhat at a stalemate, "poms" promised to influential Jews in America that if USA could be manipulated into helping war effort, they would set up a Jewish homeland in Palestine. Initially according to the "Balfour Declaration" by British government, this was supposed to not disadvantage Palestinians. However, the more immigrant Jews got, the more they wanted and Jewish State of Israel was set up in 1948. Since then, it has effectively largely been the Criminal Apartheid Zionist Settler State in Occupied Palestine where immigrant Jews have more rights than indigenous Palestinians. Zionists being those who support a Jewish State. Important to note that some Jews are strongly anti Zionist. Including those supporting Jewish Voice for Peace and the ultra orthodox Neturei Karta organisations. Regarding Jew haters, the Zionist government in Israel is creating a lot more with all their attacks against targets in Gaza which have been killing and injuring large numbers of civilians - especially women and children while often being unlikely to have achieved much regarding military benefits. .

Dear Mox,

The ethnic facts you mentioned are well-known.

But how is that relevant?

Zionists didn't want a Jewish state - Zionists wanted a Hebrew state and only reluctantly accepted a Jewish state because following the holocaust, that's what the world and the United-Nations were willing to offer them!

So what if the British promised some American Jews to set up a Jewish homeland? Whether true or otherwise, suppose they indeed talked talked talked, it was not the British who built Israel, nor American Jews - it was the Israelis themselves who did, and did so DESPITE the British rule and immigrated there DESPITE the British trying to stop them!

So OK, what if they were mostly Khazarian? The local Arabs (i.e. as you state, former Jews who converted to Islam) were still happy to take their money when they bought the land, that didn't stop them!

Zionists had great respect for Israel's local Arabs (many even tried to imitate them, for example by wearing the Kafia¹): should the Zionists been allowed to have their way, then all the local Arabs would have been equal and respectful citizens in the new modern state of Israel.

In retrospect, what sadly happened which the Zionist Israelis failed to foresee, was that instead of joyfully joining the great Zionist project as expected, the Arabs rejected and fought against it. That wasn't because they were Jewish or Khazarian - they rejected them because they brought along social progress that threatened to topple their traditional Arab/Islamic/conservative/patriarchal society and give equal rights to their women.

Lately, as Arab leaders are more open to social progress, they are also more open to befriend Israel.

Those who still use terror to try and keep the region in the dark ages, are now being successfully decimated in Gaza. This helps Gazan people, especially their women, and brings closer the day when everyone can live there peacefully, regardless of that silly ethnicity thing.

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¹ Though this page is in Hebrew, I chose it because it shows several of Israel's Zionist leaders and well-known figures wearing the Arab Kafia: http://blog.nli.org.il/chov-kafia/

I do not support calls for a cease-fire, a humanitarian pause or any other form of words which creates a pause in the fighting. Almost without exception, a cease-fire between Israel and the nations surrounding it is broken when the entity attacking Israel has rebuilt its strength and re-armed.

I call on all parties involved in attacks on Israel to realise the folly of continuing attacks. I call on all parties which have attacked Israel to remove from their platform a call for death to all Jews and for the crushing of the state of Israel.

When this concept, of universal peace, is enacted then and only then will there be lasting peace in the Eastern Mediterranean shore.

Dear Brian of Buderim,

You wrote:

"I call on all parties involved in attacks on Israel to realise the folly of continuing attacks. I call on all parties which have attacked Israel to remove from their platform a call for death to all Jews and for the crushing of the state of Israel.

When this concept, of universal peace, is enacted then and only then will there be lasting peace in the Eastern Mediterranean shore."

What an utterly inane comment.

Fatah did exactly that in the West Bank. It recognised Israel's right to exist, it worked with Israeli authorities on matters of both governance and security.

And look what it has gotten them. Continuing land theft, invasion by violent American settlers, pogroms, killings, and being forced into smaller and smaller tightly controlled enclaves.

That is their future being crushed by the state of Israel.