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Party members breaking ranks might break the Liberals : Comments

By Scott Prasser, published 24/4/2023

Julian Leeser himself says he remains a loyal Liberal. This seems at odds with his behaviour.

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Footnote: People from the far-right minor minority might go ballistic and bananas at this outcome, but, will never ever form government from their far-right position!

The people have already come to their senses and have decided they don't like neo Nazis, white supremists, racists and an assorted medley of fellow traveller nut jobs.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Monday, 24 April 2023 11:32:05 AM
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Well said, Dan: «Whoops….Democracy raises its ugly head.»

If MPs are not supposed to cross the floor as they represent the wishes of their constituents (bloody joke of course), then why do they need to be repeatedly flown to Canberra? why can't one person represent them all (preferably a Canberrean local)? why do we need to keep paying all their air+accommodation fares, plus for the upkeep of that big parliament-building itself?

Surely we have better things to finance than that expensive pretence of democracy!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 24 April 2023 1:28:41 PM
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I never realised you had moved so far to the radical ratbag left Alan.

Only a ratbag lefty could believe the Libs have moved too far right. Their problem is they have become a Labor lite, & are so far left many true conservatives have deserted them. Only as left leaning party could elect a Turnbull to leadership. Fortunately many of the wets are gone, but is it enough to salvage the party?

I fully approve of party members being able to cross the floor on issues they really believe in, it is a strength of the Libs. I can't believe the entire membership of the current government agree with Albos made rush to the left, but the party demands their silence.

We can only hope there are enough real Ozzies left in the country to chuck the ratbags out next election, If there aren't the country will very soon be a very weak reflection of what it once was.

How many believe we could today raise a militia of kids such as defended us on the Kokoda track?
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 24 April 2023 1:54:17 PM
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Leeser has been a prominent supporter of the Voice for years. It would be utter hypocrisy for him now to toe the party line and campaign against it. And although he has expressed concern about the wording proposed by the government, it is perfectly reasonable to conclude that voting for an imperfect model is a lesser evil than voting against it. Prominent conservative lawyer Greg Craven takes much the same position.

Unlike Labor, the Liberals did not take a position on the Voice to the electorate at the last election, and its is not even clear that they would oppose the Voice if it were designed differently. It is hardly disloyal to continue to maintain a long-held position on a matter of principle even if your party subsequently decides to oppose it. As the article points out, this is much more common in the Liberal Party than the Labor Party and is actually one of its strengths, exemplifying small-l liberal values.

I have yet to make up my mind on the Voice, but I respect the integrity of someone willing to resign from a prominent and powerful position on a matter of principle. We need more politicians like this, not less.
Posted by Rhian, Monday, 24 April 2023 2:50:12 PM
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It's clear Australian's want progressive leadership, with progressive policies. The days of the 'Pig Iron' Bob Party and their staid conservatism are well and truely behind us. Its been a peaceful political revolution in this country. The true liberals of today have spoken loud and clear at the ballot box. As the 'Pig Iron' Bob Party can't heed the message, its time for it to disappear up its own arse hole. I for one am not sadden in anyway by their failure, it's to be expected, their conservative 19th century thinking can't exist in the progressive 21st century world of today.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 5:40:46 AM
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‘Progressive’ There’s yet another misconception as it wrongly implies a positive. We’re progressing towards that cliff instead of progressively moving away from it. And, that is a definite negative so far as society is concerned.
The more we progress towards the future the more it will become obvious that conservative discipline is vital. The hanger-on component of society will desperately portray restraint as a conservative negative in order to not lose the grip on the teat but lose it many will as the productive progressive I.e. the revenue makers are getting pushed too far !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 25 April 2023 8:10:20 AM
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