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How do we curb the lust for power? : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 29/4/2022

Vladimir Putin's excursion into the Ukraine is just the latest chapter in man's quest for domination over man.

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You’d be better served to admit human nature and it’s preponderance towards domination.

There is no answer.

So accepting this fact, why not enlarge your understanding by including the greatest injustice of last century, the US invasion of Iraq.

Russia and China are no better or worse than the US . This is how life works.
Stop wishing for impossible outcomes and grasp the nettle of reality: Wars you will always have, the excuses for them are thin-on in reason.

The US is as bankrupt as was the Roman Empire, from over extending themselves with the burden of wasting resources to win them.

The Ukraine has already lost this conflict, and for the sake of peace for its people, should surrender to the will of Russia.
That would be a very simple logical move, and contribution to world peace wouldn’t you say!

Dan

Dan.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 29 April 2022 8:49:21 AM
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"Putin would not use his nuclear weapons in face of a world-wide response"
Really, if you believe that let me sell you a pristine harbour bridge.
Don`t generally disagree with the writer but when a mad dictator has nuclear weapons anything can happen.
Perhaps the clown in North Korea may not but Putin??
Posted by ateday, Friday, 29 April 2022 9:04:29 AM
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Three references which are very much about a universal moral theory
http://www.dabase.org/12laws.htm
http://www.dabase.org/p2anthro.htm
http://www.priorunity.org
Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 29 April 2022 9:10:20 AM
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Vladimir Putin's excursion into the Ukraine is just the latest chapter in man's quest for domination over man.
Peter Bowden,
Don't you think NATO is guilty of that ? Bribing Ukraine politicians into sabotaging Russia & then forsaking it is way more of a domination ?
It pays to occasionally look at things from an outside of the square viewpoint ! I can only see a very corrupt picture with the people of Ukraine paying the horrible price.
Posted by individual, Friday, 29 April 2022 9:34:36 AM
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To curb the lust for power, one needs to overcome weakness.

A man is naturally weak, his(/her) life is finite - and nobody can agree in their heart of hearts with that predicament: so long as we perceive of ourselves as limited humans, we will try to rebel against our finiteness. Some like Putin do it violently, the rest of us are passive-aggressive.

The only way out is to discover our error: we are not humans, we are not finite, we are not weak, we are not limited, we never were. Then we don't need to helplessly lust for power, which is already ours anyway (along with glory and honour and wisdom and blessing).

United-Nations-like ideas will never work because they too are based on the assumption of weakness. The illusory joining together of any finite number of groups of weak people, is still finite and weak.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 29 April 2022 9:41:04 AM
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Not all people, fewer and fewer in fact, have "moral inhibitions". Bowden says "we can" stop war, then proceeds to show that we cannot; even cites the totally useless United Nations. Wars, large and small, are a natural state for mankind.

Australia starting a movement to stop the veto veto power in the UN? That's a joke to end the week with. The world doesn't give a bowel movement for what Australia thinks.

"The world would be a safer and happier place with an effective world policeman." Fiddlesticks! The US in that role was hated and rubbished to the point it has now reached - useless and disinterested.

Philosophising and rambling on about philosophers no longer familiar to most people is a waste of time.

Putin has immunity from rest-of-world military responses because he breathed the nuclear word. He has the weapons, and he has convinced the world that he is mad enough to use them. 'Disarmament', ban-the-bomb attitudes are the biggest threat to world peace. A nuclear capability is the best deterrent to war.

In the meantime, forget Ukraine, and ask the people posing as politicians who want your vote, how is nuclear-free, virtually defenceless Australia going to survive Communist China
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 29 April 2022 9:47:18 AM
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