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How do we curb the lust for power? : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 29/4/2022

Vladimir Putin's excursion into the Ukraine is just the latest chapter in man's quest for domination over man.

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I think some of the suggestions in the article are unrealistic.
That is because they would require people to be totally logical, which is not always the case.
People often neglect truth and reason.
For example, in the past they have turned a blind eye to climate change?

Ideally, people select leaders, and those leaders devise and administer good laws?
That is the way is should be for a well run democracy?
But these things can only happen when truth rules all negotiation.
It is truth which is all to often absent.
Its absence causes the illogical behaviour we see far too frequently.
So, to counteract the lust for power, we need more acceptance of truth.
That would lead to stronger democratic structure?

The absence of truth and reason was well demonstrated in a programme I watched on ABC Tv.
It was hosted by Annabel Crabb, and the subject appeared to be religious belief.
The group of supposedly adult participants behaved in a very un-adult manner.
Their overall leaning towards supernatural belief was almost alarming.
I kept thinking that it was time for them all to grow up.
Grow up and begin allowing reason to over-ride instinctive behaviour.
To discard intinctive response, and run on reason instead.

For Mr Putin: it seems he only has to threaten a nuclear response, and the rest of the world backs off in almost unseemly fashion.
That must stop.
Enough it enough.
It is time to respond properly.
A firm and logical approach must be used.
Perhaps that is already the reality?
There is no realistic alternative.
The world cannot allow this bullying to continue.
Those around Mr Putin would not favour a major war such as he seems to be threatening?
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Friday, 29 April 2022 2:24:17 PM
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The article is basically a lot of irrelevant crap quoting supposed precedents and does not consider the important background story of why Russians resorted to authorising Vladimir Putin to initiate military action in Ukraine. This was after a request by Presidents of Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk ASKED for help when it became obvious a full scale blitzkrieg invasion of territories they held was imminent They declared independence from Ukraine in 2014 because did not like bad treatment from the largely US puppet government installed after US sponsored coup in Kiev. This forces of this government had been making regular attacks of Donbass territories held by so called "rebels", which resulted in deaths of around 14,000 people and ignored Minsk peace agreements which proposed giving the Donbass areas increased autonomy while keeping them within Ukraine. I have kept an eye on "alternative" news sources which includes articles from informed "Insiders " within the US of what their government gets up to in other countries. Also, have often checked mainstream Russian ones. The latter overall prove far more honest and objective than western mainstream sources, which could be describes as part of the "EMPIRE OF LIES". Without going into details here of why, I reckon action taken by Vladimir Putin regarding this Ukraine situation has been basically right and it is adds to reasons why he will go down in history as a great national leader. Meanwhile, our own stupid politicians have sent a large amount of resources from Australia to support a country with effectively Neo Nazis in power led by a professional clown who is a puppet of US interests .. Not those of his own citizens. More of our politicians blindly supporting US interests rather than our own.
Posted by mox, Friday, 29 April 2022 2:33:23 PM
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Forget the UN, it is a loose coalition of liberal democracies that is helping Ukraine. Is it a wasted effort? Certainly not, and I think that liberal democracies everywhere are relieved at the Russian army's incompetence. Ukraine is now in possession of effective equipment to combat the Russian artillery, so it will get much tougher for the Russian army over the coming weeks. The United States and other liberal democracies see military aid to Ukraine as money well spent, which it is.

As for those critical of the United States, it was the United States that was instrumental in defeating Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan. Did it turn those nations into wastelands and murder their citizens. No, they are peaceful, prosperous liberal democracies and make a great and ongoing contribution to the world. If you want to see a nation end up a basket case then let it be "helped" by Russia. How is it that the Americans are always at fault? (I will view AC's suggested banker video shortly, but I have had covid since Easter Saturday)

I am genuinely interested in how people are so anti-US in light of the "fate" of Germany and Japan since the second world war.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 29 April 2022 3:02:14 PM
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Rubbish. Ukraine should surrender. It’s already a lost cause and not worth a cup full of cold *bleep*.wasting money on its politically corrupt.
Russia has every right to expect political obedience from its border states.

diver dan,
It'd definitely save many lives & I don't think Putin has any wish to go beyond any of Russia's historical borders.
Let's see if we can get the Texans or Californians wanting to divorce from the USA & watch the Yankees jump up & down raving on about sovereignty !
Posted by individual, Friday, 29 April 2022 3:49:48 PM
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Individual

"Russia has every right to expect political obedience from its border states."

Why? What happened to mutual respect? The consequence of political obedience to corrupt autocracies is not good, which is why Ukraine is getting so much help.

Russia is finding it very difficult to advance against Ukranian forces. The only thing the Russian army has going for it is their artillery, which is a harsh and crude weapon used indiscriminately against civilians. The weapons being sent to Ukraine currently are intended to target Russian artillery. Anyway, I think we will see the Russian army sink or swim in a few months, so you can gloat then if your wonderful commie mates prevail and then celebrate with indiscriminate atrocities against the Ukranians.

What I think a stroke of genius is the intention of liberal democracies to confiscate Russian loot and give it to Ukraine to help it rebuild. What I think makes it clever is the fact that the controlled Russian media denies that the Russian people have been totally ducked over by these psychopathic cleptocrats for decades, so accordingly there is no loot to seize. Brilliant!
Posted by Fester, Friday, 29 April 2022 4:46:09 PM
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Fester,
It's not simply one Nation wanting to take over another, at least that's how I see it.
I think it's a matter of not letting a Super power which, after all, is a balance power in the scheme of the whole World, lose that power this helped keep world peace.
Russia losing ground directly translates into purely a China - Us power play & that's extremely worrying. Having that third power to keep the other two in check is what's saving our bacon thus far.
Posted by individual, Friday, 29 April 2022 7:32:27 PM
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