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Ukraine’s disposable men: exposing the latest feminist hypocrisy : Comments

By Bettina Arndt, published 18/3/2022

How come the life of this young father is considered expendable whilst most fit, capable Ukrainian women are being hastily shipped off, out of harm's way?

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Festering

<< I find Bronwyn's commentary almost caricatured and comical. >>

How about you start applying some intellectual rigour and rationally analyse and refute my arguments. Any fool can throw around patronizing insult.
Posted by Bronwyn, Sunday, 20 March 2022 12:06:36 PM
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From Bronwyn…“Yes, Russian men are conscripted for twelve months. “

Good. That was my point. Somehow you’ve convinced yourself that conscription in Russia is okey-dokey but conscription in Ukraine is a crime. I won’t even try to unravel that ‘logic’.

“Pleased to see you’ve finally produced some evidence to support your claim.”
This from the girl that hasn’t offered any support for her increasingly daffy claims.

“A single source is not substantive proof,”
Well its more than you’ve offered.

“As for my claims regarding the neo-Nazi presence in Ukraine, I can definitely provide multiple substantive sources.”
Since I’ve never disputed that, such sources might be superfluous. What I have shown however is that the Ukrainian neo-Nazis have very little influence whereas the Russia neo-Nazis for an integral part of Putin international enforcement team.

Since the days of the Comintern, there have always been those in the west who regurgitate Russian propaganda as though it were fact and dismiss objective fact as though it were propaganda. To be sure, their numbers progressively fell after the Hungarian revolt, the Prague suppression and especially after 1989. But obviously there are still some around who see international affairs only through Russian eyes.

I’m not anti-Russian on this. I see their point about wanting to only have secure slave buffer states on their border. But understanding their wants isn’t the same as thinking they have a right to that. This is all about power. Russia, and those who regurgitate its propaganda, think that what Russia wants is somehow their right while denying that Ukraine has any rights to what it wants.

From time immemorial, small states stuck between powerful states have had their desired ignored. Poland was invaded three times in the last century by Russia and has been eradicated four times in the last 400 years. They have resolved their problems for now by huddling under the protective US embrace. Simply put, Ukraine wants what Poland has and Putin wants to deny that to them. Rights don’t matter. The outcome will be decided on the outskirts of Kiev by tank and Javelin.
Posted by mhaze, Sunday, 20 March 2022 12:35:10 PM
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According to the Outsiders, Putin is in a load of trouble. And here's silly old me thinking I had been watching Ukraine getting the crap bombed out of it.

Lot's of dissidents, they claimed; then immediately put on a clip of a massive rally supporting Putin.

A young woman holds up a placard behind a newsreader, and we 'don't know what happened her', they tell us. Yes we do! She copped a monetary fine, and is as free as bird.

You can abhor what Russia is doing to Ukraine - as I do - without talking bullshite.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 20 March 2022 1:25:09 PM
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Really?

What a lazy effort to hitch an ideological bandwagon to a tragic situation.

How about even just waiting until the hostilities have ceased before rabbiting on with such pseudo-intellectualism and trite commentary.

In other words just give it a bloody rest Arndt.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Sunday, 20 March 2022 2:15:31 PM
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I wouldn't be at all surprised if all the Western concerns about Ukraine back-fired before long.
Once many of those young women fleeing to the West shack up with blokes & the husbands back in Ukraine find out how much they're being conned, they might just change their views & start backing Russia.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 March 2022 3:44:40 PM
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Itellectual rigour? It's amazing how despots feel the need to give their crazed pseudo-scientific ravings a factual grounding. Alas, I feel it an argument of death and destruction. Putin will find it hard to hide all the corpses. Observing is like being next to a volcano that might blow. Very frightening.
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 20 March 2022 7:38:44 PM
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