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I am an Aboriginal woman, and my people are hurting : Comments

By Samantha Cooper, published 4/6/2020

Reconciliation Week is exhausting at the best of times. Now more than ever, we are bombarded with tidal waves of racism and ignorance.

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...cont'd

My response - this is EXACTLY why us as "silent majority of Australians" continually try to expose for over 50 years, however we don't belong to the "woke" community of elites (and/or Government) who just wish for Aboriginals to live on "sit down" money and not offer their children a choice to learn and aspire to who they wish to be.

You state - As regards my comments about the violence that is legal in aboriginal culture, I didn’t say I supported that, I was simply pointing out to Foxy that these are acceptable under traditional law, and interestingly, the elders in Arnhem Land as asking to return to traditional law and have police removed from their communities. I am presuming they wish to be allowed to legally enforce the underaged, promised wife law that is currently illegal but still happens."

My response - seriously. One day I hope you and I can meet. I was questioning Child Abuse within Institution Care way back when --- We then got a Senate Enquiry in SA. 2004 ...which proceeded to current Royal Commission in Child Abuse in NSW. The evidence was horrific.

I keep saying the same thing - no child asked to be born, such child should be able to grow up within the love and safety of their home, in order to nurture and grow their aspirations and dreams.

Such child doesn't have to be an Aboriginal Child or a child of any race or culture - such child deserves the right to grow in a loving, safe family.
Posted by SAINTS, Friday, 12 June 2020 9:02:12 PM
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Author - Samantha Cooper

Let's now address the truth!
Posted by SAINTS, Friday, 12 June 2020 9:04:39 PM
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Author - "Because I am an Aboriginal woman, and my people are hurting.

My response - What have the Aboriginal women in Communities been crying out for for decades.

Maybe - just maybe - you might like to refer to previous posts from Big Nanna and others who are trying to make a difference.

If the "silent majority" try to make a difference to Aboriginal education - we're called "Racists".

Would you care to speak to us!

We want all Australians - no matter what colour, or nationality to go to school, in order to aspire and realise their dreams.

Is this racist!
Posted by SAINTS, Friday, 12 June 2020 9:23:28 PM
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Dear Paul

Since you have not responded to my last post I am starting to assume that the well resoned and self evident logic presented in my last post, knocked you for six?

If so, that is good. That is why I come on these sites. I like deprogramming doe eyed young lefties who have been conditioned like the Komsomolsk or the Hitler Youth to simply accept whatever ideological nonsense the present guardians of what is supposed to be the truth are inculcating into young minds today.

Take Foxy. I like Foxy. I think she is a rooly, rooly nice person. She is also so naive that Elmer Gantry would consider her a prize mark. She wants to believe that all humans are equal in every way, because her world saving ideology depends absolutely on that premise. So, like a fundamentalist religious person which she so uncannily resembles, she is not going to let truth or reason get in the way of her sacred ideology. If it did, then the ideology she so wholeheartedly believes in is not going to save the world. This is anathema to her. Better to believe in easily disproved complete nonsense than admit that your perfect ideology is wanting.

To Foxy. The aboriginal people had no agriculture, they did not even have horticulture.

During the 1950's and 60"s, the "angry young men" of Europe claimed that all men were equal, and that giving Africans their independence by removing white colonial "exploiters" from their colonies in Africa would usher in a new age of prosperity for the Africans. The riches of Africa would benefit the Africans, not the greedy Europeans. So the Europeans left and Africa reverted to barbarism.

How many times do well meaning and completely naive people like your good self need to be shown how wrong your thinking is, before you flash on that fact? If iron age "Zimbabweans" are as smart as the European farmers who turned the country into "the bread basket of Africa", how come millions of "Zimbabweans" are now starving to death?
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 13 June 2020 6:28:54 AM
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LEGO " This results in a 90% failure rate in NAPLAN testing by those same aboriginal children."

Provide evidence of your 90% failure claim, or is it something you made up?

From NAPLAN results 2019 year 9, check other results yourself.

Comparison of percentage of students at or above national minimum standard (NMS) Northern Territory;

Numeracy 79.6%, Reading 69.9%

Admittedly there is lower achievement by Northern Territory students than students in other states, but this may be due to other factors, not just your white supremacists view that "its the dumb darkie that's doing it". To quote from ABC News.

"The Northern Territory has seen the biggest improvements in almost all domains as part of NAPLAN testing compared to the rest of Australia, according to preliminary results."

BTW NAPLAN results are a bit more complicated than any simple pass/fail that you put forward.

Given the white Nazi regime in Rhodesia, like that in South Africa had subjugated and oppressed black people to such an extent. It is no wonder those ill-equipped people were unable to manage as well as they should have once gaining independence.

If you starve the horse, he can't pull the plough
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 13 June 2020 8:44:09 AM
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Hi Paul,

You asked yesterday:

"With tertiary education in the main stream, how do Indigenous graduates fair? Do they have a high failure rate? Their results are they top, bottom, generally average. Do they receive honours degrees like other students. "

The attrition rate of Indigenous students is usually around 28 % p.a. A higher proportion of Indigenous students than non-Indigenous students may not have completed Year 12, but that has been changing very rapidly in the past generation.

A bit of historical explanation: Until well after the W#ar, the great majority of Indigenous people, even in the 'south', lived and worked in rural areas, where secondary education was pretty sparse. In many areas, of SA at least, there was no secondary provision until after 1960. Even in NSW, i suspect this was still the case, but in larger cities such as Wagga, public secondary education was instituted much earlier, 1917 in Wagga. And when I was there in the fifties, I recall a handful of Aboriginal students in my classes at Wagga High School, I was very keen on a couple of them; well, all of them really, lovely girls.

But given this crucial factor, it meant that Aboriginal parents - well into the 1960s and beyond - had no secondary education or much sense of its significance for their kids. This tended to happen for those families and kids who moved to the cities where it was expected that they would go to secondary school, and perhaps finish Year 12. But it still took a decade or more for people to grasp the value of finishing secondary schooling - that tended to happen only after 2000. University numbers picked up only after about 1990. But really, they were only a bit more than a generation behind the non-Indigenous working-class in this aspiration.

[TBC]
Posted by loudmouth2, Saturday, 13 June 2020 2:33:28 PM
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