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I am an Aboriginal woman, and my people are hurting : Comments

By Samantha Cooper, published 4/6/2020

Reconciliation Week is exhausting at the best of times. Now more than ever, we are bombarded with tidal waves of racism and ignorance.

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Joe, something you can help us out on here, being the go to when it comes to Indigenous education. With tertiary education in the main stream, how do Indigenous graduates fair? Do they have a high failure rate? Their results are they top, bottom, generally average. Do they receive honours degrees like other students. See what I'm asking is "are they simply normal".

LEGO, something more important than simple IQ, is ones inherent attitude and exposure to education. Two grandchildren, boy (13), girl (14) Cook Islander/Maori parents, both parents well educated in professional jobs, encourage education in their children. Girl loves school, does very well, during the 'lock down' volunteered to return to school with a "I can't study at home, I want to be at school" an over achiever. Boy tends to do enough to get by, an under achiever, his teachers lament that he is smart, but just wont apply himself well enough. I don't know their IQ's, but I would not be surprised if the boys was not higher than the girls. In my Maori family I find the girls attitude and desire to be educated far greater than the boys. Why is that, is it female IQ is greater than male IQ, I think not. Joe will tell the same about Aboriginal boys and girls.
BTW, both Joe and Foxy will vouch for my Maori connections.
BBTW, I know this old white bloke with a high IQ, but do think he can learn the Maori language from his wife who was a native language teacher in NZ. High IQ, poor aptitude I suspect.
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 12 June 2020 6:11:23 AM
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To Paul1405.

Two thirds of the entire Northern Territory education budget goes to educating one third of the children in the NT who are "indigenous." This results in a 90% failure rate in NAPLAN testing by those same aboriginal children.

Suggested "solutions" to this ridiculous situation is "more money, more money, more money" to "close the gap" from the "aboriginal" activists, and "let's ban NAPLAN testing" by the white liberals.

One reason why aboriginal children do so poorly is because of rampant truancy. The government's expensive "solution" to this problem is firstly, to pay aboriginal parents a special subsidy to make their kids go to school. Secondly, to use more taxpayer money to buy a fleet of cars and provide "jobs" for aboriginal adults to drive around aboriginal areas and pick up the kids who just won't go, and make them go to school. Apparently, even providing aboriginal children with free food at school is not enough to tempt them to get educated.

Now, please compare that to Asian children and Asian parents. Asians consider education a gift from God. Asian children in my suburb go to "school" six days a week as opposed to other children, who go five. Within 600 metres of my own home are two privately owned "education centres" for Asian children, where the Asian kids do an extra day a week of schooling, paid for by their parents. I even know a Chinese "Tiger mom" who insisted that her husband move his family into my area because of the existence of a government selective school. She told me herself that Asian parents are horrified with western teaching methods. "What is all this sport, and singing and dancing?" she said, "We want our children to learn and become successful!"

And you are trying to tell me that Asians and Aboriginals have equal intelligence?

And aboriginal dysfunction is entirely the white man's fault for "victimising" the poor aborigines?
Posted by LEGO, Friday, 12 June 2020 10:23:50 AM
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Dear Paul,

Talking about intelligence...

The Aboriginals survived in a harsh climate for centuries,
they were more agriculturally intelligent, they managed
the land pretty well. They had a better understanding of
what it took to survive in a land of "droughts and
flooding rains" and bushfires. They had no life-line of
supplies and yet they made do. All of that takes a high
level of intelligence.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 12 June 2020 11:54:56 AM
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The circumstances in which Aboriginals and black
people find themselves in today - has nothing to
do with intelligence as such, but everything to
do with social and economic inequality. However
you can't convince some that white people are
somehow not superior.

There are white people who thought they could fly - they
were proven wrong when they jumped off cliffs,
roofs, and tall buildings and church spires.
None of them made it. (smile).

The origins of our species based on DNA - shows that
all humanity was black but as they moved to colder
climates - the skin lost its vitamin D and became
lighter.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 12 June 2020 1:02:20 PM
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Paul1405, I am only repeating what I heard, it may well be false but I did hear it.
I can’t provide any further evidence other than he appeared in every sense to be a gentleman of intelligence and moral standing, my observation at least.
Galen
Posted by Galen, Friday, 12 June 2020 4:40:50 PM
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Big Nanna - firstly may I say I have respected your comments on Aboriginal issues you have brought to this forum for many years, your voice - and many others - MUST be heard in this current 'WOKE' community.

You state - SAINTS. So many questions.

I respond - and I have so many more questions.

You state - "Firstly the Royal Commission into banking. These rip off schemes don’t just affect aboriginal people they also affect illiterate and semi illiterate whites as well, just that proportionally, more blacks are illiterate. The answer to the whole issue is to ensure aboriginal kids are better educated.

My response - The Banking Royal Commission alerted "viewers" as to the problems Aboriginals have with "identification" for documentary evidence as to opening an account. - Why?

You state - "I’m in a perfect position to understand the deficits in education for these kids. I have 25 aboriginal grandkids and those who were educated in remote communities are way behind their peers. I currently am caring for a 12 year old granddaughter who has come into town to do her secondary education and she is working at the same level as her 9 year old sister, who also lives with me. The problem is not with the teachers, it’s with the parents, in towns as well as communities. Parents aren’t ensuring their kid’s get a goods nights sleep and go to school everyday rested, and with a full belly. Parents don’t encourage their kids to do homework or read a book.

Kids are regularly exposed to violence, drugs and alcohol at home so how can anyone expect them to do well. As always, this does not apply to all aboriginal families, just a section, but those kids are the ones who will grow up dysfunctional and end up in prison."
Posted by SAINTS, Friday, 12 June 2020 9:00:42 PM
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