LEGO, white people who boast of going out and indiscriminately shooting black people for no other reason than they are black, in that context, they are in my opinion racists white trash. If a black person was to do the same to white people then they are racists black trash. Call me racist, one only has to read your posts to realise what type of person you are. I take it you are someone of European decent from Africa. It comes through that not only were you happy to go to Vietnam to shoot "commies" as you claim, btw, were five year old children considered commies in your army? You denigrate Indigenous Australians at every opportunity, for inst; "aboriginal encampment after the arrival of a truckload of grog." Would it be correct to say, you are a paid up member of some white supremacists mob with a very big bee in your bonnet about ALL indigenous people?

To Paul1405

According "The Bell Curve" 100 years of IQ testing of Americans revealed that Jews have a mean IQ of 125, Asians 106, Whites 103, Hispanics 93, and African Americans 85. I must therefore be a Jewish or Asian supremacist for simply accepting the scientific findings from the American cognitive metricians.

According to one person on an SBS program about race, pure blooded Australian aborigines, Somalis, and Kalahari Bushmen have the lowest IQ's of any other races. Looking at the way pure blooded aboriginal people living in tribes on their own lands behave, I think he may have a point.

Most "aboriginals" in Australia are what the Boers would call "coloured", and they are probably a lot smarter that the pure breds. That is one reason why past governments "stole" half caste aboriginal children from tribal situations. They thought that the half caste children could be saved from poverty because they were smart enough to train and become productive members of society. The other, of course, was to protect them from the very racist pure bred aborigines who despised "yeller feller" children, as you would know from reading Daisy Kadibil's book "The Rabbit Proof Fence."

I am not hostile to pure bred aboriginal people and I know that the Australian population has a duty of care to them. But I am very hostile to those 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, and 1/32 caste "aborigines" who never stop blaming white people for the sad fact that aboriginal people on the whole are simply are not very bright. They have been infected by the wrong idea that all races are equal, and so they are convinced that the only reason why aboriginal people do so badly in a modern society must be because the white man keeps them down.

It is hard to like people who are blaming my people for their own genetic condition. Who raise a flag of separatism on our people's government buildings. Who claim they want equality while demanding special privileges. And who snatch away our welfare without even a "thank you", while demanding more and more.

LAGO, you allude to something many on the far right trot out as evidence of the superiority of the white race over black, relative intelligence as demonstrated by IQ tests. What IQ testing don't indicate is a persons ability to gain "useful knowledge", although ones general intelligence level is not a barrier to obtaining "useful knowledge". To give you an example of "useful knowledge", If lost in the Australian desert, who would you choose as a companion? A local aboriginal or Albert Einstein, the answer is obvious, and the reason is the Aboriginal in that environment has "useful knowledge" Einstein doesn't he only has superior relative intelligence, not of much use in that environment. I will agree, in a European environment Indigenous people are at a disadvantage, as a result of not having the ability to obtain "useful knowledge" at the same rate as his European counterpart in that environment. You mentioned Asians, they for unknown reasons, have the ability to adapt to local conditions, ie a European knowledge environment, extremely well. Although they were not able to demonstrate that ability until they obtained mass education, Indigenous may well be the same, possibly not, however there is nothing to indicate they wouldn't achieve that level of "useful knowledge" given education.

Many of the leading Nazi's had very high IQ's, Hermann Goring 138, but we can discuss the value and consequences of that at another time, running out of word space.

My older brother, has a very high IQ, which has allowed him to obtain high skilled/high paid work and all that goes with it as a teacher for 50 years. His "useful knowledge" has always been sadly lacking, a bit of a dope in that regard.

Glad to hear you have an IQ of something like 130, I suspect the majority of forum posters have IQ's above the average, as they wouldn't be on here, doing what they are doing if they didn't.

To Paul1405.

A hundred years of IQ testing has revealed that almost all people with high IQ's do very well in life, while those with low IQ's almost universally do poorly. All that crap about "useful knowledge" is simply a misdirection from those fundamentalist liberal humanitarians who desperately want to believe for ideological reasons that all races are equal. Fundamentalist religious sects want to believe that the earth is only 5,000 years old, and these particular fundamentalists have fabricated the misdirection that dinosaurs were just the animals who did not make it into Noah's Ark.

Mother nature is no egalitarian. Groups of human beings look different because each race and ethnicity evolved separately with features which gave each ethnicity an advantage within wildly different environments. By definition, races, and ethnicities can not be equal, if each has the best human features that make them the fittest within a particular environment.

Group intelligence is largely a factor of length of civilisation. Civilised people need to think at a higher level than people living a hand to mouth existence. It is no surprise then that the smartest ethnicities are those with the longest civilisations. Education can improve group IQ, especially over generations. The most common "mean" IQ for US whites was once arbitrarily set at 100, but whites are now 103.

But no amount of education can turn a basically dumb person into an Einstein. Liberal humanitarians once claimed it could be done but they gave up on that dopey idea.

You are faced with two possible racist explanations as to why certain ethnicities are dysfunctional no matter where they go in the advanced western world. The first is, that they are the victims of white oppression, which is total crap. The second is, that they inhabit the bottom of white society because they are just not real smart.

I submit that anyone who has any intelligence at all and who can see past their cultural conditioning and take an objective view, can only conclude that the second explanation is the most credible. Have you ever met a smart Pacific Islander?

I have to say that I find LEGO's racist assertions repugnant: there are far more persuasive understandings of the persistence of a sub-class that one can find in the works of

*. Edward Banfield("The Unheavenly City"),

*. Oscar Lewis (("The Culture of Poverty", misnamed, I'd prefer 'Marginalisation'),

*. Aaron Wildavsky,

*. and the wonderful John U. Ogbu.

All died far too early, around sixty. But in one way or another, they each put their finger on a feature of all societies which is neglected by crude and rather simple-minded descriptions of societies as composed of upper, middle and lower classes, or capitalist, professional and working classes. Society is more than that, if you look around.

Joe

When on holiday in the UK at the age of around 12 I was fortunate, through relatives I was visiting, to meet an eminent neurosurgeon. During discussions I remember well him telling my father he had been comparing brain size in different races and he had been surprised to find full blooded indigenous Australian’s had a brain volume which was roughly 100cc less than other races he had studied. He also stated this appeared consistent over a significant sample size, so it was not an individual or isolated case.

This is likely to explain many of the indigenous issues which afflict Australian aborigines of pure blood as well as those descended from them whether 1/2, 1/4, 1/8th caste etc.

I don’t recall the doctors name, it was around 1977 when I met him but I vividly remember his comments.
Galen