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Pests need predators : Comments

By Viv Forbes, published 28/2/2020

Landowners should be free to pay bounties or sell licences for hunters, mobile butchers, zoo trappers and tourist safaris on their properties.

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Some people have an unnatural regard for animals. Ateday is possibly one of those people.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 1 March 2020 10:24:37 AM
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When feral deer and feral horses are in plague proportions destroying native flora, they need to at least be culled! And not with ineffective 10-80 baits that kill with extreme self-evident pain and work their way via the food chain, into countless other species. Scavengers mostly.

If I have to decide between diminishing native forest and Bambi, the native forest wins hands down as does my larder. We are not born vegans, i.e., herbivores, but rather like bears and pigs, e.g., opportunistic omnivores!

We got our big brains courtesy of animal protein! And need the iron in it for an adequate red blood cell count to keep our vitals oxygenated, and the B12 to support our mental well being, memory and cognitive function. One can go bananas without it, Dan!

Yes, I know that these things can be replicated in the plant kingdom! But I'm not up to munching my way through a daily bucket of broccoli just to get sufficient iron in my bloodstream to keep my brain adequately oxygenised.

That said, I'd kill or some venison back steak, literally. And where these animals are famed for their cholesterol-free meat they convert what they eat more efficiently than methane burping sheep or cows and like our native herbivores do not burp methane.

I see no sport in hunting or fishing as pleasure pastimes, just an essential if a dirty, unpalatable job, that needs to be done as humanely as possible and out of necessity!

I just don't get sport fishing and the tortured animals, thrown back Nor Hunting for thrill kill pleasure which has always eluded me!
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Sunday, 1 March 2020 11:25:05 AM
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I can't agree with you Dan, that sharks are in decline. That sounds like more researchers like the James Cook mob, fishing for more research grants with their dying barrier reef rubbish.

I ran tourists boats in the Whitsundays for 10 years. I swam dozens of times in Cid Harbor, as did thousands of our guests, & all over the area, & with no trouble with sharks.

We took an average of 200 tourists a day out to the outer reef, where almost half of them snorkeled, & a dozen or so took their first deep water dive, with no shark problem. Large man eaters are most definitely proliferating in reef waters, & need to be culled.

Any species which protects it's predators is a very stupid species. We should be eliminating crocks, they serve no useful purpose, & keeping sharks to a minimum, the rest are not too bad.

I like animals too Dan. My horses come when they are called, as do the dogs,...mostly. The artificial insemination vet could not believe when my cattle came when called, but they did every time. I think they liked me too, however that does not mean I don't want to control pests & vermin. Just because an animal was born does not give it a right to be on my property, or the national parks we are supposed to own.
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 1 March 2020 11:45:57 AM
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I have always found it a curious thing, as to how someone could WANT to be a vegetarian/vegan, willingly.
I could understand if their survival and circumstance dictated it, but to CHOOSE to not eat meat or fish, is in some circles seen as proof or confirmation that the these people are mentally lacking.
And the thing they lack are the very thing they are rejecting.
So it seems that if they ate a full and balanced diet, as nature prescribed, they would not need external health input, such as vitamin pills and the like.
Most people who only eat grass are subject to some serious health problems and deficiencies.
They are being very foolish just for the sake of trying to look trendy and somehow believe themselves to be more virtuous than the rest of us, when in fact they are just simple, stupid and juvenile.
Posted by ALTRAV, Sunday, 1 March 2020 11:54:06 AM
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Altrav you little honey pot. Was it you on the LNP float at the Gay Mardi Gras, or a homosexual crow ?

Your raving.

I thought the response of ateday to your rave, was dignified and it's content more practical than confrontational. But there you go.

If I appear to be repeating my stand on the issue of mass slaughter, it's because of your emotional condition, which highlights itself by your admission to an official complaint to the authorities about the cawing of a black crow.
That act alone should twig you to the fragile state of your mental health.

I repeat, my attitude and opinion towards mass slaughter of animals, has been hardened by years of involvement with animals of all sorts, including rats and mice, cockroaches and locusts, you name it. And should we include a virus under this heading. After all, they are living creatures are they not?

The above would indicate I draw a line through mass slaughter of animals at a defined position on the scale of "things": But crows are above that line, along with Roos pigs horses camels goats etc.

As is pointed out by above posters, making an industry out of slaughter, simply exacerbates the problem by giving the target animal a dollar value. Re the wild pig trade, where those responsible for their reduction in numbers, are actually the culprit for their increasing numbers.

I have a soft spot for animal activists, who are in the most part, our youth; predominantly our female young with natural nurturing instincts. That's a bonus.
So maybe you should get on side with them, you may actually learn something.

The modern way to control animal populations is to intervene in their reproductive cycle, spaying dogs and cats.

Dan
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 1 March 2020 12:00:04 PM
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Takes a crow a while to get a weak sheeps eye out. Eyelid's chopped away first then it's dig dig dig a peck at a time till all that's left's a bit of thin white eye tissue still attached to the stem.
Posted by jamo, Sunday, 1 March 2020 1:25:42 PM
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