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The travesty of the century : Comments
By Alon Ben-Meir, published 17/2/2020Every past administration knew full well that prejudicing the outcome would doom any prospective deal from the start, and thus settled on providing a general outline consistent with prior internationally recognized agreements.
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 9:37:55 PM
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AC, I can't thank you enough for putting all that you said out there.
I have been sitting on such a lot of, what my detractors would call, "conspiracy theories", and what you have said far exceeds my research, and findings, BUT let me assure you, you are a breathe of fresh air in a room full of ignorant stench. The likes of which I will not say, they know who they are. I would dearly like these people to read and take in what they find, especially the stories that don't sit well with them, or make them uncomfortable, because they contradict or question their long held beliefs in something. They don't realise that the evil ones amongst us use their money and power to keep out of the front line, and that's why you will not find any dirt on them, today. Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:37:14 PM
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Hey ALTRAV,
I don't like arguments being too one-sided. I figured I needed to balance things out a little with some... 'inconvenient facts'? I look now at the bigger picture and ask myself what's missing here? People will yell and scream and accuse me of anti-semitism... Ok; - But nobody ever argues or disputes the facts, do they not? An more to the point, no Jewish person ever comes and says: "You've got this all wrong; You're taking it all out of context; Let me explain things so you can better understand things; Our beliefs and religion isn't malevolent in the way you think it is" - Never happens. Ever. Maybe it's because they cant argue or refute it? They'll accuse me of anti-semitism and imply I'm inciting fear and hatred just by questioning things... - But no-one ever says I've got this all wrong and I'm taking it out of context Does no-one find this curious? Does this not say something in and of itself? If I had this wrong or out of context, then wouldn't people refute it and correct me? Does it not stand to reason? Does it not make logical sense? "I would dearly like these people to read and take in what they find, especially the stories that don't sit well with them, or make them uncomfortable, because they contradict or question their long held beliefs in something." I wish they would too but they won't do it, and it intrigues me why. It's as if they're far more fearful of being labelled 'racist', 'anti-semitic' or 'conspiracy theorist' if anyone found out they looked at the content. They'd rather stay ignorant of it, than even take a fair an unbiased look for themselves. That's about all I can figure. I guess there's really only one last thing for me to say. ORDO AB CHAO Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 20 February 2020 10:23:41 PM
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AC, pleased to see yet another of your positive contributions on OLO.
Without people like yourself and others of sound mind and mature, objective thinking, OLO would be just another leftist bullfest. I look forward to your thoughts, comments and opinions. Good for you, keep it up. Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 21 February 2020 12:09:45 AM
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Dear Critic,
If you are interested in the views of MAINSTREAM Judaism, rather than in the views of some Jewish-nationalistic lunatics, the best place to start is the RAMBAM, who is the father of Judaism as we know it today. This is what the RAMBAM has to say about the Jewish Messiah and how life will be when he comes: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1188357/jewish/Melachim-uMilchamot-Chapter-12.htm Specifically to the issues you raised: 4) "The Sages and the prophets did not yearn for the Messianic era in order to have dominion over the entire world, to rule over the gentiles, to be exalted by the nations, or to eat, drink, and celebrate. Rather, they desired to be free to involve themselves in Torah and wisdom without any pressures or disturbances, so that they would merit the world to come, as explained in Hilchot Teshuvah." ("Hilchot Teshuva" means "the rules of repentance", another publication of the RAMBAM) In that same text, RAMBAM also condemns those who attempt to forcibly hasten the coming of the Messiah: "Similarly, one should not try to determine the appointed time for Mashiach's coming. Our Sages declared: 'May the spirits of those who attempt to determine the time of Mashiach's coming expire!' Rather, one should await and believe in the general conception of the matter as explained." Regarding Malka Leifer, she is (nominally) an ultra-orthodox Jewess. While ultra-orthodox Jews despise the state of Israel as an artificial and futile attempt to forcibly hasten the days of the Messiah, they still have political parties to pursue their communal and religious interests. Tragically, they tied a knot with Netanyahu's nationalistic Likud party, who promised to serve their interests better. A principle of ultra-orthodox Judaism (which is much discussed and disputed among Rabbis) is that a Jew must never, under any circumstances, be handed over to gentiles because as a result, his/her ability to observe the commandments would be diminished. This is why the ultra-orthodox deputy-health-minister, Yaakov Litsman, intervened in Malka's case. Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 21 February 2020 8:10:06 AM
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Yuyutsu, in response to the question someone raised, basically in disbelief that Jews would turn on each other or attack other Jews.
One only has to look no further than Jesus Christ, when he berated the money changers and caused disruptions by overturning their trading tables, because they were trading in a religious establishment. And that was the beginning of the end for Christ. So based on this one act, we get a very clear mindset of the Jewish Elite and that they stand for personal and financial gain in direct contrast and conflict with human and society's expectations and demands. The Elite Jew is in a world of his own, believing that they are a superior race to, even their own kind, if they are not of like mind. These people are not only sick, mentally, but also EXTREMELY DANGEROUS! They need rounding up and having done to them as they did to the lower cast Jews in WWII. Yes if you are a pragmatic, objective, mature and aware thinking person you will get it. Posted by ALTRAV, Friday, 21 February 2020 11:43:47 AM
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What's the motive here?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-23/us-israeli-man-sentenced-in-israel-over-global-bomb-threats/10547198
The whole bitcoin thing is a bit ambiguous.
Why does a Jew make bomb threats against Jewish centres?
Why would they want to incite fear amongst their own people?
- Then say anti-semitism is on the rise
(inadvertantly pointing fingers at people like me and ALTRAV)
They're hate crime hoaxes committed by their own.
Do you actually know how many Jewish hate crime hoax's there's been?
- Jews spraying Nazi symbols around THEMSELVES?
Heaps.
And you've got to look at the bigger picture.
Where did all the refugees come from?
US wars in support of Israel.
They're Israels wars using the US as it's puppet that's caused the influx of migrants and refugees into the west.
Look at the Yinon plan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinon_Plan
"There is one thing that we do know. Oded Yinon's 1982 "Zionist Plan for the Middle East" is in large part taking shape. Is this pure coincidence? Was Yinon a gifted psychic? Perhaps! Alternatively, we in the West are victims of a long-held agenda not of our making and without doubt not in our interests."
Here's a link to the 1979 Jerusalem Conference on Internation Terrorism that started it all.
http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Jerusalem_Conference_on_International_Terrorism
Which is kind of ironic, because Israel and The Likud Party were established BY TERRORISM.
Look up the events of the King David Hotel Bombing by Menachem Begin who founded the Likud Party.
Look at the Wars for Israel - Starting with Iraq, ending with Iran.
Retired U.S. General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned, Seven Countries In Five Years
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran.
http://youtu.be/z8ityb0Ips4
And where do you think all this political correctness bs comes from?
http://www.adl.org/what-we-do/combat-hate/hate-crimes
And for the record Einstein did plenty to forward the Zionist agenda.
David Ben-Gurion wouldn't have wanted him to be the second President of Israel otherwise.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/feb/16/israel.india
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/1121893/jewish/Who-Is-Moshiach-the-Jewish-Messiah.htm
NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM
"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Warburg
Well I'm done, you lot figure it out.