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The travesty of the century : Comments
By Alon Ben-Meir, published 17/2/2020Every past administration knew full well that prejudicing the outcome would doom any prospective deal from the start, and thus settled on providing a general outline consistent with prior internationally recognized agreements.
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Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 12:31:21 PM
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"Trump's solution will give them a palestinian state, the alternative is more of the same for the next 53 years."
Trumps solution makes into law the genocide and injustice that's been going on since 1947. Rejected by the Palestinians from Day 1. It's not a deal, it's the SS. "You vilt do as vee say" Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 18 February 2020 3:55:42 PM
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Considering that the fledgeling Israel was unilaterally attacked by the neighboring arab states in 1948, 1967 and 1973 all in attempts to commit genocide against the Jews, the arabs have forfeited any moral high ground they might have had.
Secondly, attempts at negotiation in the past have collapsed because the "palestinians" have absolutely refused to negotiate beyond getting back everything lost in 1967 war. Trump's initiative suggests a reasonable starting point for negotiations. Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 8:16:49 AM
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Altrav,
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Loudmouth, I have NEVER accused a whole race of ANYTHING, so please do not unjustifiably attempt to tarnish me and mis-represent me in this way.
If you read my comments, I say what I mean and mean what I say. In other words I ALWAYS try to be specific and avoid generalising. As the saying goes, "not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims". Now I did not invent that saying, but it demonstrates what I mean. The things I have written are ALL taken from various publications and documents from articles written expressly to make certain points and at the same time, highlight the hypocrisy of these religions. Yuyutsu, I don't doubt your comments, but I cannot retract mine as they are taken from other people's words or publications/video's. If I have mis-lead by not clarifying that when I mention a race in disgrace, I am on the record as meaning the Elite or the malicious of that race. NOT THE WHOLE RACE! I am disappointed that after all these years of commenting on OLO, that I have to explain myself on the most basic of my beliefs. I would have thought that my M.O. was very well entrenched by now. Anyway I hope I have clarified and in doing so exonerated myself clear of ALL charges and accusations of antisemitism. Remember, I am a wog, so if we are to accept your premise, that would mean I was attacking or denigrating myself, my race and my ancestors Posted by ALTRAV, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 10:43:40 AM
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Hey Loudmouth,
"Do you think any of them may have been involved in world domination ?" Let me add my 2 cents. Lets start with Islam and the idea that 'Not all Muslims are bad Muslims'. Lets assume that some are 'good' Muslims and that we only allow them to come here and disallow the 'bad' Muslims from coming. The problem is inherent within the religion. Even if 2 'good' Muslims have kids, there to way to stop the potential of their kids being driven by their parents religion to eventually have extreme views. So, the truth is, there's no way to only let the 'good' Muslims come. There's always going to be a bad element that clings to the religious beliefs, and whom will more likely become radicalised if they don't feel included or they feel discriminated against. It's much the same with Jews. All they Jewish organisations have to do is promulgate this 'Us and them' mentality through the idea of 'Anti-Semitism' to drive them towards the Jewish identity and support of their homeland and religion. At the same time it's not unreasonable for people like ALTRAV and myself to have concerns based upon the aims of their religion. - So that helps drive this 'Us and Them' mentality. Lets say some aspects of Jewry have global aims. The 'Us and Them' mentality keeps them on that Jewish reservation. You've got to look a little deeper at their religion. Think - Tikkun Olam - As a means to - Messianic Age (New World Order) http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tikkun-olam-repairing-the-world/ Once you understand Tikkun Olam, you'll understand that seemingly benign things are actually stepping stones to this Messianic Age. Again, the problem is inherent within the religion. Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 19 February 2020 12:12:58 PM
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You are accusing the Jews in general for the idiocy of just a few of them. This is not right, every people have their idiots. I doubt whether you even need your both hands to count the number of Australian Jews who want to dominate the world.
Killing others is NOT mandated by the Jewish faith except for the tribe of Amalek. I don't think that there are still any Amalekites
in existence today, even though some idiots tried to reason that Hitler was an Amalekite.
Specifically, most Palestinians are Muslim and Judaism considers Muslims as perfectly fine, because they worship the same god and none other.
The political classes in both Israel and Palestine are busy dealing with their own internal political issues. They really have nothing against each other, they just need hatred and to keep the war simmering in order to continue to rule. There is no real issue between Jews/Israelis and Arabs/Palestinians, so how can anyone solve a problem that does not exist? Trump? he too only does what he believes would help his electoral success: do you really think that he cares for Israel or the Middle-East?