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Academic program on Western Civilisation : Comments

By Peter Bowden, published 18/1/2019

University staff are openly liberal, and are likely to reject proposals that have such a conservative background.

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Whatever you might think of religions, they embodied many secular concepts that found our civilisation today. And weren't there Islamic empires that lasted many centuries that were very effective by the standards of their time? Even current states with an Islamic influence have a stability that likens then to Nirvana compared with what the Marxists have come up with. So much for learning from history, let alone your mistakes. Maybe the idea of a supreme being stopped rulers from believing themselves gods, the downfall of many a Marxist experiment?
Posted by Fester, Sunday, 20 January 2019 9:04:17 PM
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Not_Now.Soon,
Can't people believe in a power/force such as God without bringing religion into it?
I'd dearly like to believe but from the evidence around me I tend to think that this God is not what all religions tell us.
For me it is a bunch of nice people or a beautiful scenery that makes my day.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 20 January 2019 9:59:50 PM
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'Can't people believe in a power/force such as God without bringing religion into it?'

depends on your definition of 'religion'. What is clear since the demise of 'Christianity' in the West, the god deniers have managed to promote and embrace dogmas which promote promiscurity, sexualise kids, promote homosexuality as a lifestyle, destroy the natural family. Take away God given foundations and you end up with the dumbed down drug and porn addicted society we have. No wonder people take on the gw religion and then virtue signal their morality to others simply because they lack any decent morals.
Posted by runner, Monday, 21 January 2019 10:53:11 AM
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runner, well done.
People are too easily drawn into the 'good life', to give a crap about being mature, responsible, sensible human beings.
They will, if not kept in check, always take the easy, dishonest way out of a situation, or generally in every day life.
A woman gets 'T' boned exiting/driving out of a property.
Instead of accepting the fact that she is a dumb, dizzy dame, she immediately conjures up a story in an attempt to remove any blame on her and pass it onto another.
In so doing she blamed it on the cars parked on the verge, 'blocking' her view of oncoming traffic.
This is the kind of crappy people we are having to contend with here today.
A good and righteous person would have simply accepted THEY stuffed up and admitted not seeing the car through their own fault.
This is just one example why I denigrate this country and all those within.
At least there are a few good souls left out there, and they know who they are, they do not include bleeding hearts and those with tunnel vision, and very short sighted at that.
Posted by ALTRAV, Monday, 21 January 2019 11:26:11 AM
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Let's not forget that the academic opposition to this was not the course content but the method of delivery, Tony Abbott said that :

"A management committee including the Ramsay CEO and also its academic director will make staffing and curriculum decisions."

That alone is clearly unacceptable to any place of learning contemplating this course.
Posted by wantok, Monday, 21 January 2019 11:33:03 AM
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runner,
why resort to such drastic terms as "God Deniers" ? How about sit back & think why some thinking people don't just accept the "Trust me'" slogan at face value ?
If you have such faith then ok but don't jam young peoples' minds with the oldest known brainwashing technique known to man.
Let them grow up first & then let them make their own choice to have or not have faith in God.
Give us evidence that evil people get punished & decent people get rewarded. For the past 2000 years it's been the other way round. Don't you think it's time to assess the situation a little more sober ? We'd all like to believe that there is this just God at the end of the road but with so much misery many find it hard to believe. If God has supposedly given us free will then why demand we don't exercise it ? Why give us free will when we're told at every turn what we can't do yet others do & live the life of Reiley to a ripe old age.
Believe me I'm trying to understand but the everday evidence is too overwhelming.
Posted by individual, Monday, 21 January 2019 6:46:34 PM
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