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The third person of the Trinity: the Spirit : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 5/10/2017

Calling the trinitarian entities 'persons' is obviously metaphorical since they are not persons as you and I are persons.

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The equality of Spirit can be tested by substitution :

Spirit's God moved on the face of the water. The Spirit said "I will send Jesus" and "Jesus , into thy hands I commend my Father".
Stephen said "receive my Jesus".

Word-juggling has limits as when a priest sends the Pope to a new parish.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 6 October 2017 2:58:09 AM
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The Trinity is bunk. Unitarians are closer than any other Christians to figuring it out.
Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 6 October 2017 7:45:00 AM
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George,
I would hope that in discussing the Trinity that I do not stray from the path that the early Church laid down. My thoughts should be accepted by all Nicene Churches. This is a matter of the dogma of the Church. However, there is a break with the Roman Church on issues that I do not regard as dogma but have been derived from natural law as the opposers of Amoris Laetitia have pointed out. If you read my article about gay marriage and the Church you will get the drift.

Great to hear from you again.

Peter
Posted by Sells, Friday, 6 October 2017 8:11:18 AM
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The early Church owned some high-rises and investor flats in Rome and then 1/3 of Europe. An Australian runs the Bank of Holy Spirit which empowers the works of charity. Handling money is a breeze and winds of change help the liquidity flow. The almighty dollar is dogma and money speaks , Pell knows that. However the $ sign is not a t or T or even X nor the Russian T with diagonal tree branch . The Holy Spirit banknotes are not co-equal and co-eternal with Pell , Francis or Peter the fisherman who sold fish for twelve denars when pneuma blew on the Sea of Galilee.
Posted by nicknamenick, Friday, 6 October 2017 9:17:52 AM
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I've never contested a creative force nor spirit!

Just the interpretation of both that then confer power into clearly unworthy or unchosen hands?

The holy spirit was supposed to confer the power of J.C. On his apostles? As they chose who should replace him at the helm of their new non Jewish belief system?

And made apparent by miraculously conferring the instantaneous power of tongues! So that folks from around the known world who couldn't understand each other? Understood at least one of the speakers?

At least that is how I understood it from early unquestioned catholic indoctrination.

This Miraculous force allowed the laying on of hands to result in miracle cures and marvelous remission? That started and ended with the apostles, given they were never again able to meet in the quorum necessary to pass on this miraculous gift!?

Moreover, after the first council of Nicosia, where Constantine the Great, a pagan sun worshiper, took effective control and allegedly appointed his own bishops as heads of the roman and constantinople branches.

That then did a Sunni and Shiite and fought each other for centuries. For both domination and validation of their version of their truth?

Thus we saw the foundation of the church of Rome and Orthodoxy?

And armored Popes at the head of marauding bloodletting armies spreading the word with force of arms and monstrosities like the infamous spanish inquisition and the burning at the stake of saint Joan of Arc, and far far worse! All done in God's name!

And apparently guys like Peter think this history gave them some sort of moral authority? Even as Cardinal Pell faces his accusers in the dock?

Some of the reformed Churches have said, that early prophets predicted that the christian church would become a stye in the eye of God?

And given their history and apparent corruption? Possibly correct?
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Friday, 6 October 2017 9:49:17 AM
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More naive speculative nonsense from Sells.

Never mind that Christian "theology" does not take death fully into account. As an example the naive self-serving nonsense about the "trinity" does not have any equivalent to either Siva as the transformer and destroyer, or the terrifying visage of the blood-thirsty bitch KALI.

For Christians in particular and all us too in our dreadful sanity the death of bodies is a philosophical and "theological" matter that causes untrust, distrust, and hell-deep fear, a matter that fills us with philosophical and "theological" propositions that are Godless, Ecstasyless, Blissless.
As a matter of fact, the cosmic domain is just like Mother Kali. Exactly so. It is full of death, full of moment-to-moment process and changes.
Ecstasy requires trust and utter acceptance of death!

Hence the contents of this reference: http://www.beezone.com/death_message.html

Furthermore the cosmic domain/display is quite literally a Light Show a Dance of Unpatterned Joy.

We have to begin to Dance because all there is, is Dance. All there is, is Dancing Light. All there is, is Love-Bliss, even in the form of all of these seemingly solid manifestations conditions.
Furthermore the cosmic domain is quite literally a light show.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Friday, 6 October 2017 11:47:44 AM
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