Sells
And the Spirit ruach of God moved on the face of the waters.
Jesus said " I will send the pneuma."
" Father into thy hands I commend my pneuma ".
Jesus gave up the pneuma.
Stephen said " receive my pneuma " and fell asleep.

Pneumatic tyre-pressure keeps the chariot rolling along and without it, tyres perish .

The trinity as never part of esoteric Christian philosophy, but like most of what is now christian philosophy. Is invention or borrowed straight from locally popular paganism! i.e. A sacrifice at an altar!

Early Christians had no such sacrament, but rather met in one and other's homes to share a meal!

When that was suppressed they met in catacombs and secret places!

Moreover, they built no giant edifices to glorify God, but met in a designated member's home or hovel or the aforementioned catacombs to break bread in commemoration and comradeship.

Churches replete with celibate priests, leading a solemn service, came much much later along with larger and large edifices, replete with plundered and stored treasure!

St Patrick was allegedly responsible for the first version of the trinity, (borrowed from the then popular, pagan druids) and explained by him with a shamrock, with three quite separate leaves, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. Three distinctly separate parts, yet a one connected whole and as such a complete plant/entity!?

I hope that's enough engagement for a nit picking Peter? Who seems to think this stuff is actual intellectual debate?
Alan B.

I think it's intellectual debate. There's the word juggling and circular reasoning : if there's a Trinity then the parts are a Trinity which proves intellectual is inter- "between" , leg- "collect, gather"as in Trinity has a leg to stand on like Rolf Harris of 5 years standing . 1+1+1 = 1 , any fool sees that.

Sells,

I nice essay that I (and apparently also Yuyutsu) could enjoy, however the other reactions that have now become obligatory raise again the question whether this is the right forum for something intellectually (and spiritually) that specialised and demanding for outsiders.

Anyhow, would you agree that a Catholic could take it - especially the last couple of paragraphs - as an expression (even argument) in support of Francis’ Amoris Laetitia (http://w2.vatican.va/content/dam/francesco/pdf/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20160319_amoris-laetitia_en.pdf) against his critics, notably the authors of Dubia Letter (http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/full-text-of-dubia-cardinals-letter-asking-pope-for-an-audience) and Fillial Correction (http://www.correctiofilialis.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Correctio-filialis_English.pdf)?

jayb, Alan B

There is also the Trinity Knot of the ancient Celts, which pre-dated Christianity and continued well into the Christian era, especially in the Celtic lands not conquered by Rome. It represented the Mother, Maiden and Crone.

Belief in the Trinity, can be ... complicated or confusing, and Christian perspectives do have different thoughts on the matter. Some to disagree with the concept, and others to shed a different light on the topic. However the main topic of the article seemed to be not about the Trinity as a whole, but about the Holy Spirit specifically.

When pressed, the core elements of the Trinity are God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Even if a person disagrees if they are all one (in one way or another), these three are very much present in our world.

I don't quite know if I agree with Peter Sellick's ideas of the Holy Spirit. But I do see the merrit of a discussion regarding the Holy Spirit.

To those who see all of this as "fantasy land" stuff. I'd recommend you open your eyes and wake up. The best you can do (if you don't ignore the world around you) is to not be conclusive about what exists in world that are the spiritual or supernatural. But to those who pay enough attention, it should be plain as day. There is something out there. God or a greater conscience force of one kind or another. Pay attention to see at least that much, and then when you find the hints that God exists go seek Him. Find out if He is a force, or is God. Good luck and please open your eyes.