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Archaic obstacles: Australia, parliament and dual citizenship : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 21/7/2017

It is a provision that nabs the unsuspecting member of Parliament who discovers, by self-pursuit or otherwise, that he or she is, in fact, seized of the loyalty of another state.

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Foxy: there should be room for you in our Parliament especially seeing as you were a naturalised Aussie and had sworn allegiance to Australia and her people

There in lies the difference, "you were a naturalised Aussie and had sworn allegiance to Australia and her people." There is no impediment to Naturalized Australians. A number of Politicians are naturalized Australians. &, As I have stated previously Registered Australian Children born overseas are not impeded as they have only Australian Citizenship, If they were also Registered with the Birth Country, they have Dual Citizenship & that then becomes a problem, Doesn't it?

Foxy: When Australian Senators have lived here for half a century
without causing a fuss - and done a good job, it makes no sense to boot them out.

These are supposedly educated people, mostly Lawyers nowadays. They should therefore be up to stick with the Law & Rules governing becoming Politicians. This is deliberate deceit on their part. Therefore they have lied & deceived Parliament & the Australian People. A very serious offence. The must be charged & sent to Jail, their Australian Citizenship revoked, then booted out of the Country.

Foxy: lets hold a Referendum and choose others to boot out.

You'd hold a Referendum for this, but not for Marriage equality? Just where are your priorities?
Posted by Jayb, Saturday, 22 July 2017 8:25:43 PM
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Hey Foxy, one more thing.
Please don't take offense but now I have to ask this question:
Were you born here?
Because if you weren't, then that in itself might give me some kind of reason as to why you'd be willing to give a foreign born person a concession and sell me out.

What I also can't understand is who in the hell thinks it's a good idea to move to a foreign country and start telling those people how they should live?
That because you've been 'granted' citizenship you think you have some sort of 'right' now to make decisions and govern on behalf of people who were born there.
What sort of person thinks that?
What of the character of the person who assumes that is their 'right'?
I would think little of a person who assumed that.

I haven't done that to anyone or anyone else's country so why should I accept it being done to mine?
Why should I feel sympathy when these people are meddling in the future of my country when they had no business being a representative in the first place.

And what 'you forgot' you we're born in a different country?
Come on, really?
They try to convince you of some dumb things these days but REALLY?

I'm sick of the progressives (and I'm not necessarily referring to you) habit trying to argue that 'people who do the wrong things are victims' when it suits them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 22 July 2017 8:42:45 PM
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What's being born here got to do with it?

One can be born here and still have dual citizenship; it ain't hard.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 22 July 2017 9:57:16 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

The Commonwealth of Australia Constitution Act 1900
became law on 9 July 1990 and entered into force on
1 Jan 1901. The Constitution was given legal force by
the Act of the BRITISH Parliament.

It wasn't until the Australia Act of 1986 that removed
the power of the BRITISH Parliament to change the
Constitution as in force in Australia and the Constitution
can now only be changed in accordance with the prescribed
Referendum procedures.

Also our Head of State just happens to be British.

So your objections to us being ruled by a foreigner is
something that you need to seriously think about. As well
as objecting to the laws that we have being decided for
us by people whop were born overseas.

BTW - I was born in Australia. Thank You for asking.

Dear Jayb.,

My parents were Naturalised. I was born in Australia
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:25:56 PM
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Dear Armchair Critic,

My apologies for the typo.

It should read that the Commonwealth of Australia
Constitution Act 1900 became law on 9 July 1900
(not 1990) and given legal force by the Act of the
British Parliament.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 22 July 2017 11:29:27 PM
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Dear Critic,

Regarding your right TO NOT BE ruled by a foreigner:

Nobody should be forced to be ruled by others against their will. Period.

(whether this/those other(s) happen to be foreigners or otherwise is irrelevant and only obfuscates the discussion)

Short of this basic principle of decency and non-violence, we currently live (though without consent) under a regime claiming to be a "representative democracy", where parliamentarians are claimed to be representing me and you. Should that description attempt to be correct rather than (as we all know) a mere piece of propaganda-slogan, then I should be able to elect MY representative, just as you should be able to elect yours: you may not constrain who can be my representative in parliament just as I do not constrain who can be yours.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 23 July 2017 12:12:12 AM
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