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Archaic obstacles: Australia, parliament and dual citizenship : Comments

By Binoy Kampmark, published 21/7/2017

It is a provision that nabs the unsuspecting member of Parliament who discovers, by self-pursuit or otherwise, that he or she is, in fact, seized of the loyalty of another state.

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What, or who is an Australian?
This seems to be a very complex question 'cos I don't get any definitions as to what an Australian actually is?
Posted by ilmessaggio, Sunday, 23 July 2017 12:59:44 AM
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Foxy: How long does a person have to live in this country to no longer be considered a foreigner?

Forever it seems. A mate came to Australia from Britain when a child, grew up in Australia, joined the Army, served in Vietnam, worked all his life & was a TPI & on a Defence Pension. He went to Europe & Britain on a holiday. He arrived back in Australia & was refused entry because he was still a British Subject.

I figure if he can be kicked out of Australia for that then Politicians who purposely deceive the Australian Public because, they know, should be shot (euphemism.)
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 23 July 2017 9:26:12 AM
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Simple, an Australian is a citizen of Australia.
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 23 July 2017 10:50:29 AM
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ilmessaggio: This seems to be a very complex question 'cos I don't get any definitions as to what an Australian actually is?

Well you're a Rabid Lefty & it shows. You don't know anything much. you are just against everything for the sake of being against.

Foxy & others hell bent on getting rid of Sect. 44.1. Would you agree to a whole bunch of Yanks becoming members of our Parliament? ;-)
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 23 July 2017 10:50:42 AM
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I think that the whole clause needs tightening up.
It should also ban persons who belong to political groups or religions
who advocate overthrowing parliamentary government.

That is clumsily worded but you get the idea.
If you have any doubt look at what is happening in France, Germany & Sweden.
Their laws are being superseded by Sharia law by use of "Islamaphobia"
clauses in "Hate speech" regulations. Canada is the latest example
where you have to be very careful if you criticism Islam.
Posted by Bazz, Sunday, 23 July 2017 11:50:45 AM
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I don't think we realise how complicated this can get.

It seems that some governments may consider that the children of a citizen - or the children of anyone born in their country - is automatically a citizen. So many of us may be citizens of other countries whether we like it or not, or know it or not.

And some of those countries may also have a rule that such citizens cannot become dual citizens: so we may be born here but, if our parents (or maybe even just one parent) come one of these countries, we are not only lifelong citizens of that other country but it doesn't recognise that we may be citizens of the country that we were born in, i.e. Australia.

In other words, we may be oblivious to the laws of other countries which may have very serious effects on us. If, say, we visit the 'home country' of our parents, and let's say, commit a minor offence, we may have no recourse to any Australian consular protection in the legal eyes of that country.

Gets messy :)
Posted by Loudmouth, Sunday, 23 July 2017 11:51:28 AM
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