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Meryl and her streeple : Comments

By Louis O'Neill, published 16/1/2017

Why does she feel the need to turn the Golden Globes into her own political monologue?

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billyd thinks Australia has a first past the post voting system "as does the UK"!

No, we have a preferential voting system, unlike the UK. Indeed, the UK's first past the post system can easily (and does at times) result in a government elected by a minority of the voters. An example: four candidates (A, B, C, D) stand in an electorate. Candidate A gets 35 per cent of the vote, Candidate B gets 30 per cent, Candidate C gets 29 per cent, and Candidate D gets 4 per cent and two per cent are informal. Candidate A wins. If enough candidates of Candidate A's party win with similar minority votes, you have a government elected by a minority.

He also thinks there is some deficiency in the electoral college system used to elect the US president.

The US Constitution specifies the voting system for the presidency, which is based on electoral college votes distributed across the states in proportion to population. In most states, if you win the state, you win all of the available electoral college votes for that state, although a small number of states share the votes between the candidates, based on the proportion of votes received. That system was deliberately intended to prevent a situation in which a couple of large states, say, oh, California and New York, could dominate the rest of the country.

In any case, billyd, your opinion about what "should/ought/must" happen is irrelevant to what the US Constitution actually specifies for their electoral system. Your little tanties won't make it different.

billyd's gross ignorance on display again. Spare us your great wisdom and learning, billyd.
Posted by calwest, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 2:11:57 PM
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Foxy,

The entertainment industry and those associated with it are notoriously left whinge. If Streep said "Trump is an idiot" and followed it up with a loud raspberry she would also have got a standing ovation. The adulation she achieved is little indication of the merit of what she said.

Your link to left whinge author whose previous comments incl "I'm not sure if you heard, but on Tuesday night, a giant fkg disaster happened. America elected Voldemort to the presidency!" and "Trump is evil" is hardly going to produce a reasoned response.

P.S. You didn't comment as to whether a disabled reporter is immune from criticism?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 2:32:11 PM
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The American electorate have spoken their will in the form of turning up and voting. What I loved most about the losers is the fact that some 46% of eligible voters did not actually cast their vote.

Obviously they thought it was going to be a landslide victory in favour of the establishment. What a surprise they got for their tardiness, complacency & belief their God given silver spoons would be forever in their mouths.

The tide of opinion, despite the spin doctoring, perception management, outright lies & disinformation of the MSM has been seen through for what it is...now the establishment is worried the status quo is being eroded.

Hollywood, since the early 1930's has been nothing more than a propaganda department for the elites who are poo-pooing the challenge to their existences. Mz Streep is just another talking head.
Posted by Albie Manton in Darwin, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 8:22:06 PM
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Oh look, Calwest has popped his head up after the humiliation he suffered on another thread.

So an Australian government has never been elected with a minority of votes? After your failure to check the credentials of the climate scientist you quoted, who turned out to be a writer encouraging governments to burn more coal, I would have thought you would have checked your facts a little better.

"He also thinks there is some deficiency in the electoral college system used to elect the US president."

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!
He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election.
We should have a revolution in this country! More votes equals a loss … revolution!"

Donald Trump, 2012.
Posted by Billyd, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 10:06:49 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

People like actors and writers must be skilled at
emphasising with people from all walks of life
and all different parts of society so there is a
tradition in the entertainment industry to see
things in a different light, finding different
perspectives. People with a "conservative mindset"
are more likely to defer to the perspectives of
tradition or authority and not be involved in
alternative perspectives. However your assumption
that Hollywood is made up of the "left-whinge,"
as you put it is wrong. If you were to Google
"Conservatives in Hollywood," you may be surprised
as to how many there are in the entertainment
industry. Just a few names that were given, both
from the past, and current, were:

Clint Eastwood, John Wayne, Bob Hope, Charlton Heston,
Jon Voight, Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger,
Vince Vaughan, Gary Cooper, Adam Sandler, Chuck Norris,
Kelsey Grammar, Tom Selleck, and the list goes on.

Of course a disabled journalist is not immune from
criticism however his disability should be immune
from being mocked. And that is what the American
President-elect did to the New York Times investigative
reporter, Serge Kovaleski during a rally in South
Carolina.

Mr Kovaleski suffers from a condition known as
arthrogryposis. A congenital condition affecting how his
joints move. Mr Trump made several offensive gestures
imitating Mr Kovelaski's condition jerking his arms
and hands in a mocking manner.
That was an inappropriate thing to do.
Most people would agree.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 19 January 2017 10:14:12 AM
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Foxy,

The acting profession is overwhelmingly left whinge, the handful of exceptions if anything prove the rule. Streep could not have got a better response from a democratic convention.

Your characterisation of conservatives shows that you have no clue as to what we think. Most conservatives I know are individualists and defer to reason and experience rather than the left's "alternative" fuzzy emotionalism, and desire to have a big nanny government.

Finally Serge Kovaleski uses his disability as a trade mark and to get access where other reporters can't. As he and other reporters have mocked Trump's appearance, his disability is fair game. Trump's mocking of SK fades into insignificance compared to Hillary's email scandal.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 19 January 2017 12:38:07 PM
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