The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Meryl and her streeple > Comments

Meryl and her streeple : Comments

By Louis O'Neill, published 16/1/2017

Why does she feel the need to turn the Golden Globes into her own political monologue?

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 7
  7. 8
  8. 9
  9. Page 10
  10. 11
  11. 12
  12. 13
  13. ...
  14. 23
  15. 24
  16. 25
  17. All
Dear Shadow Minister,

I did not have a regressive narrow-minded upbringing.
On the contrary. The importance of education was
something that was stressed in our household. Coming
from a family of academics - that is something I take
for granted. Debating a wide variety of subjects with
all sorts of people is a tradition I grew up with.

As for Meryl Streep's speech? and the Hollywood
entertainment industry - that is something we are poles
apart on. I speak from personal knowledge and
experience - you speak from what you read in the media.
To me Streep's words have the power to start a
national conversation about disabilities (and stereotyping).
I found Donald Trump's mocking of Serge Kovaleski crude
and tasteless - of course Kovaleski has the power and
the platform to fight back (he's a Pulitzer Prize
winning journalist after all). However Kovaleski has found
the best way to respond to Trump is silence.

I'm going to take a page out of his book.
See you on another discussion.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 19 January 2017 7:14:13 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Foxy:

"However Kovaleski has found the best way to respond to Trump is silence."

So he does not need your help or Streep's. He figured it out all by himself even though you and Streep behave like he was unable to because he had a disability.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 19 January 2017 8:22:05 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Foxy:

You do not have to dialogue with me. There is no need to tell me that - just do it. You do not have to explain your actions to me unless you are really trying to explain them to yourself.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 19 January 2017 9:55:32 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Foxy,

While Trump's mocking of Kovaleski may have been tasteless, it is a point of such insignificance compared to Clinton calling half of America deplorables, that perhaps silence is a valid comment.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 20 January 2017 3:49:14 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
phanto,

You do not have to tell Foxy that she does not have to tell you that she is not going to have dialogue with you. There is no need to tell her that - just let her explain that she is not going to have dialogue with you. You do not need to explain to Foxy that she does not have to explain her actions to you unless you are really trying to explain this to yourself.

Annoying, isn't it?

See why your amateur psychoanalyses are useless? They can be applied to anything that anyone does or says. According to you, everyone here is insecure about their beliefs and motivations by mere virtue of them being here. Including yourself.
Posted by AJ Philips, Friday, 20 January 2017 7:30:42 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Foxy

'Mr Kovaleski suffers from a condition known as
arthrogryposis. A congenital condition affecting how his
joints move. Mr Trump made several offensive gestures
imitating Mr Kovelaski's condition jerking his arms
and hands in a mocking manner.'

Firstly, Mr Kovelaski's arthrogryposis only affects one hand and forearm. (An elderly aunt of mine ad the same condition in later life.) It does not cause the limbs to jerk around. Quite the opposite - the affected part does not move at all. If you watch Mr Kovaleski on video, he is perfectly normal everywhere but the affected limb and his movements and speech are not at all jerky and his arms do not flail around.

Yet, the furore surrounding Streep's speech gives the intentional impression that Mr Kovelaski has cerebral palsy or some kind of severe motor-neuron disease.

And, as for Trump, there are a few videos on YouTube, which show him doing this exact same flailing gesture in many other contexts. It's just a mannerism he has. I attach one such video below. (The presenter is a bit of a right-wing jerk though, so don't watch the whole thing.) At about 4.50, he presents some interesting facts about Mr Kovaleski's disability, movements and speech. At about 6.05, he presents a series of film clips that show Trump using this same flailing gesture in several different contexts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBpkMCa_D5
Posted by Killarney, Friday, 20 January 2017 12:51:11 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. ...
  6. 7
  7. 8
  8. 9
  9. Page 10
  10. 11
  11. 12
  12. 13
  13. ...
  14. 23
  15. 24
  16. 25
  17. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy