Gadfly " One test is whether they are prepared to swear or affirm loyalty to the Queen and obedience to the laws of Australia (as against Sharia Law)."

Waste of time. Read my previous post. An oath to do anything contrary to their religion is meaningless.

David

Yeah, it's a bit like trying a witch. If she confesses to being a witch, she's a witch, so you burn her. And if she doesn't confess to being a witch, then she's lying (and whoever heard of an honest witch?), so you burn her for being a witch after you've tortured her for lying about it. This approach generally saves a lot of bother, and the infallible logic behind it ensures that you only end up burning witches, and never just poor old ladies.

mikk: You are all the epitome of fools and ignorance and dishonest bigotry.

A pox on the lot of you. It is intolerant, religious, closed minded bigots like you that make me want to vomit

Nice little insulting rants from a moslems lover. I would expect nothing less. Next he'll be chopping off Christians heads.

Jayb,

Religious conversions are voluntary but of the ones you mention, only one sells itself door-to-door.

Also, why single out Baptists as being unrepresentative? Aren't they Christians too? What about Mormons? At least they get their own planet when they die. Perhaps the Amish are the correct ones . Even the KKK uses religion to justify their beliefs and is a proudly Christian organisation.

There are over 10,000 religious groups globally classified as Christian so which is the correct one?
More importantly, only one can be right so what about the hell-bound fate of the members of the remaining 9,999 groups?

Christians are eager to use a minority of extremists to be representative of a whole competing religion but don't want it to work the other way around.

Hypocritical and judgemental?
No, just being religious - using their beliefs as not a reason but as an excuse for their personal prejudices.

I identified the following claims by Babette Francis:

1. ISLAM KEEPS MUSLIMS UNEDUCATED
2. ISLAM IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH NOTIONS OF HUMAN RIGHTS
3. ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH DEMOCRACY
4. ISLAM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH FREEDOM OF RELIGION
5. ISLAM WAS SPREAD BY THE SWORD
6. ACCORDING TO ARCHBISHOP WELBY, ISLAM BELEIVES THE JESUS WILL RETURN WITH THE PROPHET

Have I missed anything?

We can dispense with claim #6 immediately. Islam does not believe the Prophet Muhammad will return, only the Prophet Jesus will return.

Given this is so basic an error, the Archbishop and Francis are profoundly ignorant when it comes to Islam and they are playing those sincerely seeking the truth for fools

In the Qur'an we read:

<<We cursed Jews because of their saying, “We murdered ‘Isa, son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah.” In fact, they did not murder him, nor did they crucify him. The murdered one was made to appear to them like ‘Isa. Those who differ over him are in a state of utter confusion; they have no knowledge whatsoever about this matter, but only a conjecture. For certain, they did not murder him. Allah raised ‘Isa up to His presence.) [Surat-un-Nisa’ 157-158]>>

According to the Prophet:

<<When ‘Isa returns to the earth, he will marry, have a son, live for about 40 years, and die. He will be buried beside me.>>

and

<<In the time period close to Doomsday, how beautiful is the life after the descent of ‘Isa. Then the sky will be granted permission to send its rain and the earth will be granted permission to grow its produce. If one sows a seed on a flat stone, it will sprout. When one passes by a lion, the lion will not do any harm. When one steps on a snake, it will not bite. There will be no struggle for interests, jealousy or hatred among people.>>

and

<<Grudge, hatred, and jealousy will no longer exist when ‘Isa descends as a just judge.>>

Isa is the Arabic for Jesus

...And for those who care for the Islamic perspective on Mary and Jesus they can read verses 16 through to 33 of Surah Maryam which describes in detail his birth, the birth pains that Mary suffered, his speaking when his soon after birth (to refute accusations made against Mary that she had been unchaste) and refutation of the claim that he is the son of God.

translation: http://www.noblequran.com/translation/surah19.html

as recited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCFYhInE38k

So, unless others can add to the accusations I've listed, we are left with five outstanding claims.

Can I thank Babette Francis in advance for her article since it allows us to examine the factual basis of a number of accusations commonly raised against Islam...which by the way is beautiful religion :-)