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United Nations must end Hamas and PLO stranglehold on power : Comments
By David Singer, published 13/9/2016The United Nations has allowed the conflict between Hamas and the PLO to career out of control for the last 10 years.
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Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 9:17:47 AM
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#Geoff
Once again you make a complete fool of yourself and show how blind Jew-hatred can cloud rational thought. 1. Your comment has been lifted verbatim and unattributed by you from the one of your favourite Jew-hating columnists Thomas Are at: http://thomas-l-are.blogspot.com.au/2016/09/better-imagined.html 2. The source for Are's quote (which he did reveal) is the following article from another Jew-hating web site - Mondoweiss. http://mondoweiss.net/2016/04/birthright-israel-ends-trips-to-israel-american-jews-are-better-off-imagining-israel-than-seeing-it/ 3. The Mondoweiss article is deceptive and misleading and was written on April Fools Day to make fools out of you, Are and others who swallowed this false and misleading propaganda hook, line and sinker without caring to check its truth or accuracy. 4. Birthright Israel is still alive and very active bringing thousands of young Jews to Israel annually to see and judge for themselves. http://www.israelprograms.com.au/program/taglit-birthright-israel/ 5. Perhaps Jew-haters like you should take the time out to visit Israel, the West Bank and Gaza and see what Jews can do and achieve in the face of enormous Jew-hatred that is encouraged by people like you who are too ready to repeat and spread canards and lies that have no factual substance whatsoever. 6. Guess I should thank you once again for demonstrating the power of propaganda directed against Israel and the Jewish people and the influence it has on forming false opinions that bear no relationship to reality. 7. Would be nice to see you withdraw your comment. In the words of a good old Yiddish (shock horror Jewish) maxim: "If you lie down with the dogs, you get up with the fleas" (az me shloft mit hint shtait men oif mit flai)." https://www.amazon.com/Yiddish-Wisdom-Yiddishe-Kristina-Swarner/dp/0811812022 Go get some flea powder as soon as you can. It will cost you a few dollars but the results could be life-changing. Stop reading web sites like Mondoweiss and Are that are full of lies and deception and are fuelled by an intense and irrational hatred of Jews. It will cost you nothing to get rid of your Jew-hatred by simply opening up your mind and checking the truth of what you readily lap up before rushing into print. Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 10:01:29 AM
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Thanks for the return rant David, anyone going to the lengths you do to deny or defend something which is obviously indefensible has something to hide.
No flea problem here, odd mozzie this time of year, and the elephant in the room, you, a one eyed zealot for the Zionist cause. No Jew hater here, it's all in your petty imagination, I just despise racists like you! Posted by Geoff of Perth, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 10:24:23 AM
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Gotcha on the hook and so easily Singer :-)
re: "Another Jew-hater comes out of the woodwork" SHOW ME where the word 'Jew' or 'hate' is found in my quoted sentence or anything 'hateful' for I may have to sue you for your offensive defamatory lies mate, if you do not RETRACT that now. Why are you lying and distorting what I said and what it meant Singer? Answer: A Hasbara Clone re: "Will this utopian Jew-free state comprising millions..." SHOW ME where the words 'Jew-free' or 'utopian' are found anywhere in my comments. Oh that's right you cannot. Is dyslexia and personal issue for you Singer? Why are you lying and distorting what I said and what it meant Singer? Answer: A Hasbara Clone Regarding the rest of your vapid logical fallacies, irrelevancies and red herrings, ad hominem abuse and lies, please go here to educate yourself better Singer: http://esgs.free.fr/uk/logic.htm "If it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic." My view is very simple: That the nation state of Israel is, and always has been, illegitimate. Like Singer, there is no obligation upon me to agree with the actions or beliefs of the UN. It is my informed view that those couple of dozen people sitting in a room in May 1948 who unilaterally declared statehood were illegitimate and legally represented no people at all. Not Mandate Jews, not Muslims, no one! There was never any election held to 'appoint this tiny group of fanatics' as leaders. There was never any Referendum held by bona-fide 'citizens' who Voted for any nation state on the land of the defunct British Mandate of Palestine. The people in the room acted OUTSIDE of the UN Process and as such it was ILLEGAL and IMMORAL. In comparison, the Colonies here engaged in public discourse over 15+ years on forming an Australian Commonwealth. Plebiscites and referendums were held across the colonies by ALL the potential bona-fide CITIZENS. These were Legally binding. 47 years BEFORE anyone had heard the words 'the Jewish State of Israel.' Posted by Thomas O'Reilly, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 10:29:03 AM
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David Singer, once again a Hasbara clone makes a complete fool of themself and shows how blinding to rational thought and logic are those people who hold to the vapid archaic mythologies of most religious beliefs.
Personally I do not care whether Israel is a Jewish state or one created by Scientologists, or by African Pygmies. The reasoning, the logic, the history, the legality, the ethics, the morality and the Human Rights aspects of my views remain exactly the same. Just because the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) by the UN wasn't ratified until 7 months after the illegitimate declaration of Israel as a nation state, does not change the self-evident fact that 'Israel' never abides by those human rights from day one. Being an oppressed minority and victims of war is no excuse. If "might was right" then the Brits would have shrugged their shoulders when Hitler took over Europe by force. And the Russians would not have cared about Stalingrad either. Do not forget to retract your delusional distorted disgusting defamatory comments about my good self. Posted by Thomas O'Reilly, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 10:43:58 AM
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//The UN needs to make fresh elections happen in Gaza and Areas "A" and "B" of the West Bank.
If the UN sits idly by and does nothing it will be accountable for allowing the conflict to continue and for the consequences of its default.// That's nice, Dave. I'm still not the UN. Never have been, in fact. Did you miss the bit where I explained that telling people who aren't the UN what the UN needs to do is about as useful as tits on a bull? In this case, I'm not saying your arguments are complete shite. Just grossly misdirected. My ability to affect UN policy is probably even less than your own, because I can't attach the letters LL.B. to my name. I'm just as much of an antipodean nobody as you, but I make a conscious effort to be less jumped-up. //BTW - you are yet to reply to my comments to you on 11 September in relation to our discussion// Oh, sorry Princess. Daddy has been very busy with work lately. I'll come and look at your lovely picture in just a second. Posted by Toni Lavis, Wednesday, 14 September 2016 3:14:37 PM
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Another Jew-hater comes out of the woodwork with this comment:
"I saw that one day there would be one nation state upon the land of Palestine. A real functional democracy based upon a true Constitution under Law Equal rights for all citizens and it's name would not be Israel."
Will this utopian Jew-free state comprising millions of Hamas and PLO devotees be able to match the following feats of the democratic Jewish State of Israel with its 80% Jewish-20% Arab population?
1. The US FDA has approved three wavelengths of the PicoWay picosecond laser from Israel’s Syneron Medical which successfully removes tattoos of various colors. Recent trials removed 22 tattoos from 15 patients with no side effects.
2.Israel Railways has completed the Jezreel Valley railway between Haifa and Beit Shean- reviving the line first built by the Ottoman Turks in the late 19th century and closed by the British in 1946.
3.Israel's unemployment rate fell to a new all-time low of 4.7% in July. The rate of participation in the workforce rose, to 64.4% from 64.1% in June. Standard and Poor’s confirmed Israel’s A+ credit rating with growth exceeding expectations and consumption soaring.
# Toni Lavis
The UN needs to make fresh elections happen in Gaza and Areas "A" and "B" of the West Bank.
If the UN sits idly by and does nothing it will be accountable for allowing the conflict to continue and for the consequences of its default.
The world needs another Syria, Lebanon,Yemen,Libya, Iraq and Darfur like a hole in the head.
If the people of Gaza and the West Bank are happy to continue with their suicidal self-destructing leaderships whose policies have brought nothing but misery and suffering - so be it.
At least internationally supervised elections will give them their say and the opportunity to break the stranglehold that has choked them for the last 10 years.
Are you seriously suggesting these populations should remain shackled in silence indefinitely?
BTW - you are yet to reply to my comments to you on 11 September in relation to our discussion at:
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=18470&page=0