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Abbas abandons peace negotiations with Israel : Comments
By David Singer, published 24/8/2016Mahmoud Abbas’s decision to prosecute Britain for publishing the 1917 Balfour Declaration amounts to an outright rejection of the right of the Jewish people to have their own state.
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Posted by Toni Lavis, Friday, 16 September 2016 10:59:35 PM
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The Jews are no more a nation than the Celts. Jews, like Celts, have dozens of homelands - Australia is one of them - in which they are no more "special"or less "special" than the rest of the population. Most Jews are perfectly content with this.
A racist is someone who denigrates a small part of the population (regards them as less "special") on the basis of their ancestry. An ULTRA-racist is someone who elevates (as more "special) a small part of the population on their ancestry. David Singer like all who follow his whining about the world ganging up against racist Israel is an ULTRA-racist. The only ultra-racist country than Israel is Boer South Africa, and that has been wiped off the face of the earth. The bell now tolls for Israel (www.gradesaver.com/donne-poems/study-guide/for-whom-the-bell-tolls), and its sound is menacing to Mr Singer's ears. Israel is (precariousy) safe for now because not enough people can yet hear it. I can clearly remember the day when not enough people could hear the bell tolling for ultra-racist Boer South Africa - now it's a distant memory. Posted by EmperorJulian, Saturday, 17 September 2016 12:28:48 AM
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#Emperor
Thank you for being frank in wanting to see “Racist Israel” wiped off the face of the map. That explains why your stock in trade is to continuously obfuscate, lie and deceive in an attempt to denigrate and delegitimise the Jewish State of Israel. You are an advocate of the “Zionism is Racism” rubbish which was finally repudiated by the United Nations on 16 December 1991. 111 nations voted in favour of repealing its own vile 1975 Resolution. 25 nations, mostly Islamic and hard-line Communists, voting against. Thirteen nations abstained. Seventeen other countries, including Egypt, which recognizes Israel, and Kuwait and China, did not take part in the voting. Your closed-mindedness to ever accepting decisions by the League of Nations and the United Nations vesting legal rights in the Jewish people to reconstitute the Jewish National Home in 22% of former Palestine is unfortunately held by others such as #Geoff, #Thomas O’Reilly and #nickname who take every opportunity to comment in the identical manner to you. The 78% of former Palestine the Arabs already occupy and control is not enough for you or them. You want to see the Arabs occupying and controlling all 100% and the Jews nothing. That is Jew-hatred pure and simple. You and your fellow travellers are perfectly entitled to hold that view. But do so honestly and with integrity based on facts – not the false and misleading facts you and your mates continually present to advance your racist objective of a Jew-free Palestine. #Thomas O’Reilly What a remarkable vitriolic outpouring by you exposing your unquenchable Jew-hatred: “Israel is, in my opinion, an illegitimate nation state and always has been” Substantiate this claim in 100 posts of 350 words with facts – not personal and hateful abuse. At least #Emperor had the intellectual honesty to admit he wants to see the Jewish State of Israel disappear off the face of the map despite the international community’s unanimous decision to lay the groundwork for such a State 100 years ago. You would do well to follow #Emperor’s frank admission and cut out the false posturing. Posted by david singer, Sunday, 18 September 2016 8:03:16 AM
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#Toni Lavis
My question to you was: ‘“Just a "yes" or "no" will suffice”’ Your smug reply was: ‘"Yes" or "no". Happy now?”’ No Toni – I am not happy at your turning a serious question into an answer of sarcasm and ridicule. Even #Emperor had the intellectual honesty to answer that question. You haven’t. Nor am I happy with your sense of morals and ethics that you so loudly trumpet contained in this snide and evasive reply: “Sorry, just my little joke. It would keep cartographers in work, and there's precious little left to be charted out there. But against the needs of the cartographers we have to weigh the needs, desires and hopes of the poor Israeli buggers caught up in the middle of all this shite, and in the end I think they win. The Israeli children too young to know aught of the politics don't deserve to be made Stateless because of the mistakes of 'wiser' adults. Oh please won't somebody think of the children?” Just the children are your concern? What about innocent Jewish and Arab adult civilians in Israel being constantly targeted by: 1. tens of thousands of rockets fired indiscriminately into Israeli civilian population centres from Gaza 2. Attack tunnels being built into Israel from Gaza by Hamas for the purpose of murdering Israeli civilians 3. Murders being carried out by Arabs from the West Bank involving stabbings, cars running down civilians, murders perpetrated on Israeli adults and children eating a pizza or attending a night club or praying in a Synagogue or asleep in their own houses. Just do it for the children? I think you are slowly exposing your true self under the false cover of a being highly ethical and moral person. You refuse to rank Israel among the 16 nations I named who virtually escape the world’s censure whilst Israel is routinely and almost single-handedly condemned by the United Nations many of whose members appear to have the same ethics as you. Who taught me ethics? The Ten Commandments and the Ethics Of The Fathers. Who taught you ethics? Posted by david singer, Sunday, 18 September 2016 8:15:56 AM
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//No Toni – I am not happy at your turning a serious question into an answer of sarcasm and ridicule.
Even #Emperor had the intellectual honesty to answer that question. You haven’t.// Oh, lighten up you miserable old prick. There are no prizes for being sour all the time, and I sincerely doubt that anybody on their deathbed has regretted that they didn't laugh less and whinge more during their life. //Nor am I happy with your sense of morals and ethics that you so loudly trumpet contained in this snide and evasive reply:// http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/3/36818/1824338-95b6c6f8_6c64_435e_adb9_97a8faaf405e.jpg //Who taught me ethics? The Ten Commandments// Well there's your problem. You want to stop paying so much attention to those and follow the 2nd Great Commandment instead - treat other people the way you'd like to be treated. A bit less Exodus 21:23-25 (an eye for an eye and all that unpleasant shite), and a bit more Leviticus 19:18 (love thy neighbour as thyself - and we all know how much thou loves thyself). Your posts never seem to express much love for your Arabic neighbours. Or indeed any of your other neighbours who aren't staunchly pro-zionist. Never mind Elder Hillel's one sentence summation of the Torah: "What is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow: this is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn." Because it's pretty clear that you're not real big on the whole 'learning' thing. Posted by Toni Lavis, Sunday, 18 September 2016 9:44:23 AM
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so all those who want the Jews gone from Palestine
support the idea that taking in huge numbers of refugees fleeing from war as the jews were after world war2, should not be taken in and given assylum by non Jewish countries. Maybe you could explain the hyprocricy in saying the Jews should have never been granted assylum in Palestine after world war2, and on the other hand criticising Europe and Australia for not taking in huge numbers of Arabs fleeing from the Syrian war. Posted by CHERFUL, Thursday, 22 September 2016 8:39:24 PM
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Just a "yes" or "no" will suffice.//
"Yes" or "no". Happy now?
Sorry, just my little joke. It would keep cartographers in work, and there's precious little left to be charted out there.
But against the needs of the cartographers we have to weigh the needs, desires and hopes of the poor Israeli buggers caught up in the middle of all this shite, and in the end I think they win. The Israeli children too young to know aught of the politics don't deserve to be made Stateless because of the mistakes of 'wiser' adults. Oh please won't somebody think of the children?
//Where would you rank Israel among these nations?//
Nah, you've left Ireland & the UK off the list. You seem to have forgotten both the Americas and the bit in between, and you're Asian sample is skewed too far north. But coming back to Europe, you should have at least included the Vatican and Belgium as the control sample.
//Do you consider the UN to be immoral in so acting given what is happening in just those 16 UN countries named above?//
Nah, I've had enough of your answering your questions for now. Time for you to answer one of mine:
Who taught you ethics? Simple question, Dave. That's twice you've dodged it now.