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Abbas abandons peace negotiations with Israel : Comments

By David Singer, published 24/8/2016

Mahmoud Abbas’s decision to prosecute Britain for publishing the 1917 Balfour Declaration amounts to an outright rejection of the right of the Jewish people to have their own state.

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There will never be peace in the Middle East while Iran, hezbollah and hamas are allowed to flourish. Discussion is futile. Action against these three evil entities is necessary to give peace and security to Israel. There is just no point in talking about peace any longer. There will be no peace until the West takes charge.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 10:37:31 AM
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David Abbas is not the only one who doesn't think Israel is illegitimate, try this on for size:

Back in 1956, David Ben-Gurion, possibly struggling with his conscience, confessed:

“If I were an Arab leader, I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural, we have taken their country. Sure God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We came from Israel, it’s true, but that was two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?”

Food for thought eh!
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 11:07:21 AM
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Law of the Jungle is chimpanzees ganging up and screeching at other dead chimpanzees. British and New Guinea leaders wore large bird-feathers in their hats when they met. Turkish guns became British guns became Jewish guns became Hamas guns and the most bullets decided what is Law. Wild West it is.
Posted by nicknamenick, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 3:10:27 PM
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Yes Geoff, food for thought indeed and more power to your prehensile thumb old mate.
Alan B.
Posted by Alan B., Wednesday, 24 August 2016 5:15:56 PM
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Meanwhile the systematic dispossession of the Palestinians continues unabated, and ramped up too:
http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/israel-demolishes-palestinian
And of course the Jewish people do not have any right to their own "homeland", nor are they the "chosen people", nor did "god" promise the biblical lands to them.
And if Israel is such an integral factor in David's Jewish "identity", and therefore his "homeland" why doesn't he go and live there.

Meanwhile how many billions of dollars does the USA government (or the long suffering USA taxpayer) give to Israel every year, when all over the country USA infrastructure is falling apart, and millions of USA citizens are either homeless and/or live in tent-"city" poverty.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 6:18:41 PM
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#Geoff

1. You do not quote in full what Ben Gurion is supposedly alleged to have said - which was:

"I don't understand your optimism. Why should the Arabs make peace? If I was an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. Sure God promised it to us, but what does that matter to them? Our God is not theirs. We come from Israel, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been antisemitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that? They may perhaps forget in one or two generations' time, but for the moment there is no chance. So, it's simple: we have to stay strong and maintain a powerful army. Our whole policy is there. Otherwise the Arabs will wipe us out."

2. You do not attribute the source for this quote which was "The Jewish Paradox : A personal memoir (1978) by Nahum Goldmann" . The ostensibly verbatim statement taken from a private conversation in about 1956 was not published by Goldmann during Ben Gurion's lifetime — when Ben Gurion could have disputed it — but only five years after he died.

3. The unsubstantiated quote is one favored on extreme anti-Zionist Web sites specializing in attributing bogus anti-Arab statements to Israeli leaders. You are obviously one of their most avid readers.

#Alan B

Sorry mate - not food for thought but food for the garbage compactor.

#Daffy

All demolitions are of unauthorized buildings and structures after having been so determined by the Israeli Courts.

The Jews right to reconstitute their national home in Palestine was unanimously approved by the League of Nations and preserved by the United Nations.

Like Geoff - you need to get away from Jew-hating web sites and ascertain the real facts of the Arab-Jewish conflict.

Keep reading my articles which will help you no end.
Posted by david singer, Wednesday, 24 August 2016 9:10:33 PM
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