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Fear is not necessarily bigotry but we need to overcome it : Comments

By Rivka Witenberg, published 28/7/2016

In psychology we recognise at least five basic threats with the fear of extinction being the most prominent one.

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**. But, as far as individual attacks by the Chinese population of Australia on Australian Citizens. I don't give that much credence. Unlike the chance of an attack by some individual "lone Wolf" egged on by the local moderate moslems. **

Since I did not elaborate on the subject, you are excused for misunderstanding my concern Jayb.
I alluded to the fact that transplanting a complete foreign middle class into a Country such as Australia, is cultural suicide: not murder!
Quite frankly, I am not a convinced believer in the threat from the Muslim population. Any threats from any direction, Muslim or otherwise, should be an easy fix if the political will is not subjugated by fear!
That was the problem that befell Britain in the late 50's when non white immigrants began to arrive from abandoned Commonwealth countries.
It took ten years for political action that would remove the inherent right of commonwealth citizens that were "assumed" automatic British citizenship. How inept was that oversight Politically.

The problem for Australia in the current climate of fear, is Political ineptitude!
Ineptitude , a lack of dialogue with Australians on immigration issues and how the general population feel about their impression of being swamped by immigrants. Refusal by Politicians to include Australians into dialogue on foreign ownership, and a raft of other applicable subjects such as my concern above; one which ties into foreign ownership of real estate, having virtually no boundaries .
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 31 July 2016 8:18:50 PM
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DD: I alluded to the fact that transplanting a complete foreign middle class into a Country such as Australia, is cultural suicide: not murder!

I suppose it also depends on just how many arrive over a particular time period. Too fast & the Cultures won't mix. The Chinese that arrived for the Gold Rushes moved into to European Communities quite well even considering the "Class Status" at the time. The have integrated very well into Rural & Larger Town Communities, maybe not so much into the Big Cities.

Quite frankly, I am not a convinced believer in the threat from the Muslim population. Any threats from any direction, Muslim or otherwise, should be an easy fix if the political will is not subjugated by fear!

I think the big problem is the PC, Green & Latte Set Groups. The Government seem to be afraid of them & they are a Vocal Minority in the Community. I think the big problem with the moslems Community will come for Australia in 10 years. Then it will be like France now. their attitude is, "Give into Islam or we will kill you." & smiling all the wile crying Peace. Death of Australia by Subterfuge & the Government sticking their heads in the sand. "We don't want to know."
Posted by Jayb, Sunday, 31 July 2016 8:47:25 PM
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if the fear is justified by circumstances, terrorist attacks,
then why do we need to overcome it

In the circumstances, fear is a logical defensive reaction.

Theres a reason humans have lived in tribes since the beginning of history
and those reasons are for the protection the tribe around us gives us,because
we are their kin or bloodline.

That protection does not extend to other tribes.

in fact we are justifyably suspicious and hostile to other tribes on our land and territory.
because we rightly suspect that they pose a threat to our control of the land and resources.
The reality of that threat is manifesting itself already, even with relatively low numbers what will happen when they number in the millions.
Posted by CHERFUL, Sunday, 31 July 2016 11:23:53 PM
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Fortunately, there is a psychological solution to fear, which excludes the necessity to act against the source negatively.
http://www.psychology-solution.com/anxiety/worry-anxiety-fear-panic
Posted by diver dan, Monday, 1 August 2016 7:17:35 AM
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Hey Diver Dan,

It seems to me that Islam is just another New World Order type recipe for global conquest, that involves religious, political and military doctrine.
The idea that 'Islam is a religion of peace' is actually better described with 'there will be peace when everyone is converted to Islam'.
And just like I previously said that Islam is an issue that democracy cannot easily fix because of freedom of religion it uses that goodwill to gain a foothold and take areas over.
Make treaties when you are weak, have lots of babies and then take control and wipe them out when you get strong.
I'm not saying that's what all Muslims are about, (I don't know) but that's what the belief system of Islam is all about, from what I can understand.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 1 August 2016 10:43:16 AM
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Interesting Link.

The Author explains the train of thought that an untrained mind goes through. (Civilian)

My Military Training has served me well in this regard. One of the first things you learn is if you get caught in an Ambush the safest way out of it is through the Ambush. Think of it this way, “Deal with the situation immediately.” Running out of an Ambush only increases the opportunity & time the enemy has to shoot at you. Or, “If you run away from the problem it will only catch up with you.”

But let’s deal with the train of events.

Anxiety: Being trained well & knowing the threat the fear is reduced. Anxiety does heighten but can be used to an advantage. You become acutely more aware of your environment & notice things that you would not normally notice.

Fear: A strange feeling when the hairs on your neck stand up for seemingly no reason. Strangely when this happens & you look around & everybody has had exactly the same feeling at the same time.

Panic: In a trained Soldier this doesn’t happen. Immediate Reaction is similar to but not the same as Panic. Training automatically takes over & learnt Drills come into play. Something that doesn’t even have to be thought about.

Depression: After Action Reaction immediately after an action (fire fight) is when the Adrenaline reduces to a pre action level. Returning to a Civilian type level takes much longer for military Personal, sometimes years.

Story.: Three mates & I got off a Tram in Brisbane not long after we got back from Vietnam. We were walking down the footpath of the City when there was a gun shot. All four of us hit the Deck rolled, ended up under cars & behind things & wondering where our weapons had gone. It was a Ramset Gun on a building site that we were passing. We ended up pretty pissed that afternoon at the Belfast Hotel...
Posted by Jayb, Monday, 1 August 2016 11:19:16 AM
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