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Shame effects: the risks from public debates and bigotry about the Safe Schools program : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 3/3/2016

Through its diversity education training, the Safe Schools Coalition program makes some small headway into trying to make a broader range of sexualities and genders seem normal.

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Yep - nothing to see hear, nothing to see at all!
Posted by SAINTS, Thursday, 10 March 2016 8:58:31 PM
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ABC NEWS - 26/2/2016 - Info leads children to 'potential harm'

Quote - The Safe Schools program is supported by mental health organisations beyondblue and headspace, as well as the Australian Secondary Principals Association and the Foundation for Young Australians.

Mr Shelton said ACL's concerns about the Safe Schools program were shared by feminists including Germaine Greer and RMIT's Dr Caroline Norma.

"Young people often have a period of confusion as they go through adolescence, and the research shows that by the time they go through puberty it's not an issue for most," he said.

"To introduce this [information] at a time when there's, perhaps, a natural confusion and questioning going on, I think could lead young people down a path of potential harm.

"I think a lot of parents would want to ask questions about whether or not they want their children exposed to this sort of material." *end quote*

I have seen several programs with youths stating - as above. These youths now are ashamed of their actions, and lament losing and experiencing puberty, they believe they were led by others (the mobs) into thinking/believing they were trans or whatever persuasion, they have now grown to adulthood as straight men and women.

I guess this is the "other" side of the impact on lives those L_(?) supporters don't want to hear from.
Posted by SAINTS, Thursday, 10 March 2016 9:23:50 PM
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Yep you see?
Everything I said I'm not the only person who said it.
And remember this guy WASN'T TALKING about 11 year olds.
He was talking about teaching anal sex to children in Grade 3 lets not forget that.

I thought I was right and SAINT'S comment reinforced my assumptions -
When I said they're trying to stop the discrimination by talking kids into gay acts before they become adults.

Also phanto made a good point that 'They only want to introduce not for the sake of those being bullied but to reassure themselves that such behaviour is valid.'

It simply proves more and more to the contrary of 'their' internal voice trying to tell themselves that they are normal and for everyone else to accept it.

No you people are not normal.
You are messed up in the head.
Its not normal to teach kids in grade 3 about bumsex.
Not now, not ever.

NOT NORMAL IN ANY WAY.

Ultimately I've tried to be reasonable on this topic but I don't really care anymore, I think the needs of the majority completely outweight the needs of a minority and therefore, discrimination and equality aren't nearly as important as protecting kids from this kind of sick agenda.

The people like 'Rob' have pushed this issue too far, so quite honestly I could care less about whether your weird children with weird sexual issues get bullied or not anymore.

STAY AWAY FROM MY KIDS YOU SICK PERVERTS
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 13 March 2016 7:45:58 AM
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Toddlers to be taught about cross-dressing in controversial sex ed program. Herald sun - March 6, 2016

Dr Anne Kennedy, chairperson of Community Childcare Victoria, said the material would be handled sensitively.

TODDLERS will be taught about sex, sexuality and cross-dressing in a controversial national program being rolled out at childcare centres and kindergartens next month.

Educators will be encouraged to use dress-ups to explain cross-dressing to kids and may even take group tours of the opposite sex’s toilets as part of the Start Early initiative.

Teachers will use material provided by Early Childhood Australia, and books such as the book Children’s Sexual Development and Behaviour: Pants Aren’t Rude, by Pam Linke.

Suggestions in the book include teaching about sexuality in a positive way as a healthy part of life, ensuring children aren’t forced to kiss anyone they don’t want to and letting children know that “all parts of their body are good”.
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Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 13 March 2016 6:46:51 PM
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Early Childhood Australia spokeswoman Clare McHugh said the program would reduce domestic violence because “rigid views on gender” were associated with violence and domestic violence.

“Children are sexual beings and it’s a strong part of their identity, and it is linked to their values and respect,” she said.

It comes after the federal government ordered a review of a Safe Schools program for secondary students including lessons on how to bind breasts and tuck in male genitalia.

Ms McHugh said the program was designed to “use everyday moments and interactions” to teach respect, ability and making choices.
“The underlying message is to value difference and be open to difference,” she said.

Dr Anne Kennedy, chairperson of Community Childcare Victoria, said there would be a “wide take-up” in Victoria.

She said the material would be handled sensitively and parents would be consulted.

“Educators deal with these issues all the time and the resources help them do better in the way they respond — in a developmentally and culturally responsible way,” she said. (end of article)

“Early Childhood Australia spokeswoman Clare McHugh said the program would reduce domestic violence because “rigid views on gender” were associated with violence and domestic violence”.

Are you for real Ms McHugh? So according to you, gays (and/or other persuasions) don’t have ANY level of violence and domestic violence in their homes where children reside?

Whilst domestic violence occurs due to rigid views on gender – really, and that's the only issue? Please provide some national stats in evidence?

Is this the BS we (as parents, families and protectors of our young children) are to believe.
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Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 13 March 2016 6:50:16 PM
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TODDLERS – yes, Ms McHugh – ALL TODDLERS just want to make friends and play with other children at this age.

Their tiny minds aren’t broad enough to take in conversations about “sex”, cross dressing, visiting other sex toilets, etc.

Enough is enough – leave our TODDLERS alone. We want “our” children to enjoy their years of innocence, memories they will cherish forever, instead of filling their heads with inappropriate issues they not ready to cope with at such young ages.

This is a “minority” group pushing their agenda onto the “majority”.

Their “agenda” really isn’t all about bullying is it?

How about showing some level of respect to us as parents and families, who want our TODDLERS to enjoy their innocence.
Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 13 March 2016 6:52:04 PM
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