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Shame effects: the risks from public debates and bigotry about the Safe Schools program : Comments

By Rob Cover, published 3/3/2016

Through its diversity education training, the Safe Schools Coalition program makes some small headway into trying to make a broader range of sexualities and genders seem normal.

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Big Nana: Every school is populated by responsible teachers, and they act as filters on any material not suitable for the classroom or age group.

Even so, the greatest objection to this information, I believe, are folks busy trying to indoctrinate kids, to believe anything other than hetrosexual sex is abnormal and a product of perverse choice, not nature?

And their real concern is how they'll look when their kids are exposed to the truth?

As for objections to so called porn, kids can be exposed at home when online and doing their homework, and even there, kids need to know some of the stuff they've been exposed to, isn't any part of a loving adult relationship!

And given forewarned is forearmed, they really need to know there are some sick priests out there and paragons of chest thumping/bible bashing street angel activists with assumed virtue by day and home devil, kiddy fiddling phedophiles by night?

And given loss of innocence at the hands of any one of these monsters, can and does result in suicide or lifelong harm! Our kids need to be able to discern genuine religious teachers and others from sick and the self identifying deviants who would harm them?
Rhrosty,
Posted by Rhrosty, Thursday, 3 March 2016 5:15:26 PM
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Cobber, I don't know what sort of society you live in but anal sex is not very common in my area, in fact it would be rare. And I have never met a woman who has enjoyed it.
Anal sex has its origins in the past when pregnancy was almost a death sentence and raising children past infancy was not guaranteed, nor was there any welfare to feed all those unwanted children. So a minority of women accepted anal sex as the best of the worst alternatives.
Porn has driven this current culture of anal sex and I have had discussions with young girls asking me why their boyfriends are trying to force them into this practise.
As for porn, I have never heard of any material presented that doesn't involved force, or multiple partners or anal sex combined with a total lack of emotional involvement, which believe or not,is what most females look for in sex.
You may hope the world is full of nymphomanic women who enjoy random casual sex but the truth is most women equate sex with emotional connection.
As I said the world of porn is fantasy, despite what you wish to believe, and it is leading to a problem of hypersexuality in young children,even primary school age. As the
recent media article disclosed.
Posted by Big Nana, Thursday, 3 March 2016 5:43:45 PM
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That a member of Socialist Alternative, Roz Ward, has been the main instigator of this appalling program should be warning enough. She is culpable on several grounds. The first and by far the most important is that she and her supporters, such as Rob Cover and others, are prepared to damage the great majority of normal, heterosexual children under the guise of protecting the small deviant minority from "bullying".

The "Safe Schools" program has NOTHING to do with bullying and everything to do with wilful psychological damage to small children. If bullying were the issue, the program would be about bullying, not sexual deviancy.

Where is there any evidence of due diligence by the politicians and bureaucrats responsible for handing over $8 million for this abomination?

The casualties of such a program will be the psychologically damaged young people who will emerge from the education system. Most of the politicians now defending the program are Labor Left, as you'd expect, but there is a clear stream of Liberals, equally to blame under the baleful influence of the current progressivist prime minister.

Meanwhile, there will be no diminution of real bullying, which as we know has caused suicides.

Most astonishing of all, is that the same hypocrites wring their hands and form lynch mobs, supposedly outraged by the findings of the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Abuse, while continuing to promote the exposure of young children to this nauseating material.

The originator, Ward, as Merv Bendle has pointed out on the Quadrant site, has no relevant qualifications in psychology or psychiatry or medicine. She is a charlatan. Indeed, her academic record barely makes it to mediocre, given her MA in "Gender Studies".
Posted by calwest, Thursday, 3 March 2016 5:46:38 PM
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If kids are taught that all bullying is wrong then why do they have to be told that bullying of kids from sexual minorities is wrong?

All means all – without exception. How does education about sexual minorities make all anymore all than it already is? Kids do not need to be educated about Islam to know that bullying Muslims is wrong because they have already been told that bullying anyone is wrong. Kids do not need to be educated about eating disorders to know that bullying fat kids is wrong because they already know that all bullying is wrong and that is the only information they need in regard to bullying behaviour.

This claim that you have to be educated about specific differences before you can grasp the notion that it is wrong to bully someone who is different is a complete smokescreen. Bullying is wrong full stop. It doesn’t matter what you say or who you say it to it is wrong and should be stamped out. No means no and kids understand that. If an adult tells a child not to put his fork in the toaster he will not do it. He doesn’t need a course in electronics. He will just take your word for it simply because you are an adult.

If you tell a child that bullying is unacceptable behaviour then that is all he needs to know and if he does anything that is unacceptable he suffers the consequences. Kids already have the information they need and programs like this are giving information which is totally unnecessary in order to stop bullying. If a kid with sexual issues is bullied they go to the teacher and report it. The kid who is guilty of bullying is punished. The bully already knew what he was doing was unacceptable. If he has not taken it in by that stage then he is not going to change after lessons in diversity.
Posted by phanto, Thursday, 3 March 2016 8:32:03 PM
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Hey Suseonline,
I know that kids know everything these days and some of them are having sex at age 11, I know times have changed..

I think if you wish to teach your kid explicitly about anal and oral sex at age 7 then that's your business.
I don't particularly like the idea that your well-informed deviant kids would be influencing mine, but I take serious offense to any other adult who thinks its ok and that its their duty to teach mine about that kind of stuff behind my back and without my consent at that age.

Its wrong and unacceptable.

If your kid is different that's your issue to deal with.
My 7yo kid doesn't need to be taught about bum-sex just because your deviant 7yo needs understanding for their weird sexual feelings.
And if your 7yo kid truly does need understanding for some sexuality problem then I'd question how you raised him/her.

Simple. Kids of that age don't need it shoved down their throats.

They talk about suicides on the one hand and that most 80% revert to normal heterosexual behavior as they grow up.

Those stats tell me that this LGBTI agenda is screwing kids up that may otherwise never have questioned their sexual identity or been pushed to suicide in the first place.

Sex shame?
What about the shame of being easily lead as a kid or talked into some underage gay experience when its not who you really are?
Maybe that's their angle. Stop the discrimination by talking kids into gay acts before they become adults.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 3 March 2016 8:50:51 PM
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BE GAY ALL YOU WANT.
People can live however they choose so long as it doesn't affect others in a bad way, unfortunately that doesn't include you or any other adult teaching and influencing my kid with discussions on anal sex when they are under the legal age.

As far as I'm concerned its sexual assault of a minor and borderline pedophilia.

If my kid's questioning their sexuality and initiates a discussion with another adult, I should be informed and its my job to discuss these issues with my underage dependent.

In no way whatsoever do any other adults have the right to initiate these discussions and influence my underage kid behind my back and without my consent.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 3 March 2016 8:51:06 PM
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