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Macho Tony Abbott and the women who ruled him : Comments

By Peter West, published 10/12/2015

Many discussions of masculinity, my own included, have pointed out that masculinity has its paradoxes.

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Waverley,

To take one example, Paid Parental Leave (PPL) landed Abbott in grievous difficulties for a very long time and never went away. Not only did the PPL parallel the generous entitlements that have been available to public servants for yonks (so guess where the advice for it came from), but since even back then over 55% of women public servants earned in excess of $90,000 pa, they were also the ones who would have obtained the most benefit from the proposed PPL.

Abbott was played on that policy, with the educated middle class women winning whichever way that went. If it got up they benefitted and if Abbott got a caning in the process or fell, they would still be celebrating at their next taxpayer-funded 'networking' knees-up at the Hilton.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 13 December 2015 10:36:31 PM
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Suseonline

Nope don’t take every comment personally. Have been around on OLO for many years, and several other sites.

Everyone can have his or her own opinion, without grouping people and consider they be related – due to their comments?

You say – Abbott is finished in politics, and it is time to move on.

Don’t have to move on, hadn’t moved in as an Abbott supporter, in the first place. We can all have an opinion though.

Not a supporter of any party - I make up my mind around voting time.
Posted by SAINTS, Sunday, 13 December 2015 10:58:57 PM
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I'm coming late to the discussion. However, everyone seems to be putting in their two cents worth about how regressive TA was for Australian politics (no objections from me). No one seems to have addressed the gender politics of the article.

Some quotes:

‘pushed herself much too much into the foreground’

‘Instead of being a helper and facilitator, she became a bossy micro-manager.’

‘Albrechtsen says Credlin had been heard to finish Abbott's sentences. And to correct his statements in front of foreign and Australian officials.’

‘So why did he seem afraid to put these two women in their place?‘

These quotes highlight what is still the problem of gender in Australian politics. Obviously, West is using this rhetoric tongue-in-cheek, but it still shows up the fatal flaws in how men generally react to how women are supposed to behave in most situations. Stand by your man, dear, or shut up.

The article presents TA as a man who couldn't control 'his' women. Maybe Malcolm Turnbull's more progressive policies will be better able to control 'his' women to his advantage, in accordance with more politically correct standards.
Posted by Killarney, Monday, 14 December 2015 5:34:07 AM
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Naughty West, tut tutt. Everything's about women, guys. And feminism. And what women think of feminism. And why men are to blame for not thinking about feminism more seriously. Groan.......
Posted by Waverley, Monday, 14 December 2015 9:09:31 AM
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Gillard hit the nail right on the head, when she chastised Abbott, and rightly so. Abbott’s arrogance came through as if he was the only one worthy of politics, and that carried through until the time he got knifed in spectacular fashion.
The man was just not suitable to be PM. We now have an intelligent, and statesman like figure as our leader. If Turnbull plays the game properly he will be there for 20 years +.
We are now on the road to recovery, I can not see any importance of examining Turnbull’s wealth other than sour grapes. Extreme far right was never for Australian politics or France by the sound of it
Posted by 579, Monday, 14 December 2015 9:51:43 AM
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Killarney, "The article presents TA as a man who couldn't control 'his' women. Maybe Malcolm Turnbull's more progressive policies will be better able to control 'his' women to his advantage, in accordance with more politically correct standards"

You've got a lot going on there and with that loaded 'progressive' word too. You see through a glass darkly. Or as you might womynsplain it, you are (mis)informed by your feminism.

It has been all very complicated for 80's feminists hasn't it, since the 'ideology' (sic, more self-serving narrative) and mantras of Leftists (who wouldn't recognise Left if the was a DMR road sign pointing the way) dominated feminism, which was long ago and laid bare the implausibility and BS artists of middle class white feminism. Here, this article might help and poster Waverley might read too,

<Carly Fiorina Blames The Left For Turning Feminism Into Political Ideology

Businesswoman and presidential candidate Carly Fiorina’s campaign has released talking points from a speech Fiorina will deliver on Thursday that will recognize the modern feminist movement as leftist propaganda, debunk the war on women, and redefine contemporary feminism.

“Feminism began as a rallying cry to empower women — to vote, to get an education, to enter the workplace,” the Washington Examiner reported that Fiorina will say. “But over the years, feminism has devolved into a left-leaning political ideology where women are pitted against men and used as a political weapon to win elections.”>

http://tinyurl.com/q9vkwhn

That is also what leftist 'Progressism' is all about too isn't it? Marxist tactics and slogans to misrepresent, slur and disrupt. The wolf in sheep's clothing being the overarching goal of international socialism: ultimately regressive, never progressive as far as democracy and freedom of speech are concerned.

Is it any wonder young women who have learned to think for themselves and be responsible for their own choices have such disregard and are repulsed by the overbearing, self-entitled and mercenary, educated, middle class feminists from the previous Millenium, dinos with steel-trap minds forged over half a century ago.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 14 December 2015 10:10:57 AM
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