David G,

Here you are again, with your hateful and embarrassing anti-Semitism.

You don't even know anything about Jews. They are not into the Christian bible or the 10 Commandments. Some Christians even call Jews 'Christ killers'.

Your hate-filled mind doesn't hide your ignorance from anyone. You are merely a racist bigot and Jew-hater. You would have made a brilliant National Socialist in another time and country.

Your wild description of Israel as "one of the most violent on Earth" firmly puts you in the idiot class, as does your dig at America, with its do-nothing, pro-Islam wet President.

Hi David F.,

I know it's probably invidious but if it were possible to put what is going on in Israel on a scale, along with, say, the Burmese oppression of Muslims in Arakan (Rakhine), and the brutality of ISIS in Syria an Iraq, where do you reckon they each would rank ?

I look forward to your equal, or stronger, condemnation of the extreme right-wing fascists in the ISIS-controlled areas. No rush :)

Cheers,

Joe

ttbn, switch on your telly and you'll see lots of evidence showing the extent of Israeli brutality and genocide.

I'm sorry that you only have one eye and less than zero sympathy for the Palestinians whose land the Jewish invaders and occupiers have misappropriated.

P.S. Do you wear a black hat and bob up and down often?

Dear Loudmouth,

I'm afraid your call to be even handed falls a little flat when you fail to include Christianity in your list.

I have reflected on Hitler's words before on this forum;

“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

Indeed he had a reasonably sheltered though progressive upbringing and “Not until my fourteenth or fifteenth year did I begin to come across the word 'Jew,' with any frequency, partly in connection with political discussions”.

And his early views regarding Jewish people was benign at worse, welcoming at best. As a young artist in Vienna he made this observation about the local newspapers; “...the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultural tradition of a great nation.”

It took the then Christian Mayor of Vienna Dr. Lueger to radicalise a young Hitler;

“I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna's destinies: Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party.”

“The man and the movement seemed 'reactionary' in my eyes. My common sense of justice, however, forced me to change this judgment in proportion as I had occasion to become acquainted with the man and his work; and slowly my fair judgment turned to unconcealed admiration. Today, more than ever, I regard this man as the greatest German mayor of all times.”

“How many of my basic principles were upset by this change in my attitude toward the Christian Social movement! My views with regard to anti-Semitism thus succumbed to the passage of time, and this was my greatest transformation of all.”

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For a more recent examples the Rwandan genocide occurred in arguably the most Christianised nation in Africa and had priests and nuns extolling the death squads from the pulpit.

Or the Christian death camps of Yugoslavia where thousands of Muslim prisoners were systematically slaughtered.

But you asked me about who I condemn. That is easy. Time and time again on this forum I have raised the issue of Saudi Arabia. This is a barbaric nation whose leadership only holds on to power by the influence of countries like Australia and the US. Their poisonous brand of Islam infects Muslim communities around the world. Their treatment of women, guest workers, and minorities is appalling. That the US and the UK could not only support but actively lobby to have them recently appointed as the head of the UN human rights is just breath taking.
http://www.rt.com/news/317004-saudi-uk-human-rights-deal/

Australia should treat them as we did South Africa. Their sporting teams should not be permitted to play here, their oil should be boycotted and we should be putting pressure on both the UK and the US to distance themselves from this insidious country.

Hi Steele,

Yes, fine, add those Christians if you wish. Now is there any chance that you might say a word or two about ISIS, surely the worst fascists around at the present time ?

Interesting that you mention 'Yugoslavia': I recall that, at the time throughout the nineties, the left was wetting itself not to attribute any blame to the fascist Serbs under Milosevic (I lost some 'leftist' friends over that, and over Timor as well: go figure). So is there any chance that you might call it like it was: Serbs, not 'Yugoslavs', against Bosnians, using religion as a cover ? Let's not forget the Croats as well, doing the same thing. Yes, indeed.

As for Rwanda, I don't recall that religion was relevant, apart from the by-the-way that there were Christians on both sides. As a left-hander, I suspect that most of the killers were right-handed, but I don't think that was relevant either.

Now can we get back to the essence of what is going on in the Middle east ? As for Palestine, a comparative piddle in a tea-cup, the Palestinians seem to be bringing whatever is to come on themselves by

(a) refusing to recognise the existence of Israel (and what does that usually indicate, the refusal to recognise the Other's existence, if they had the chance ?) and

(b) doing whatever they can to provoke an Israeli response, including random terrorist knifings: real heroes ?

Meanwhile, the Kurds are taking much of the strain in fighting the ISIS fascists, in a far, far bigger struggle than that which the Palestinians are trying to provoke.

Steele, would you say that the Kurds are more progressive than Hamas ? I think so, and, for laying down their lives against ISIS, they deserve our admiration far, far more than a bunch of terrorists with knives.

Cheers,

Joe