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Exercising our rights: women, violence and freedom : Comments
By Evelyn Tsitas, published 25/3/2015When an act of terrorism occurs, the message from authorities after the dust has settled is loud and clear – do not change the way you live, do not give into fear. That way the terrorists will have won.
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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 27 March 2015 5:45:57 AM
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Jay,
"This is why so many of these breast fondlers,train masturbators and flashers seem to be from the sub-continent," Could we please have a reference? Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 March 2015 7:31:24 AM
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I don’t think violence against women is any worse than it has been through history. If anything it has reduced but not necessarily for the right reasons.
What has increased is the sensationalisation of this violence by the media and there is so much media. Women were murdered in the past and there would be a story in the newspaper about it but it would be kept in perspective. Media reported the story – they did not go on to create a story. If someone was murdered or died in an accident it affected only the close friends and family of the victim. Now we have the ubiquitous ‘outpouring of grief’ that media outlets call whenever they smell a lot of sales of their product. Everyone becomes touched, marches and rallies are held, thousands of dollars are wasted at the florist, social media goes into melt down, funerals are televised and so on. What used to be a regrettable occasion of crime now becomes a circus and all sense of proportion goes out the window. Things are not worse and there is no need for anymore caution than existed in the past. We should live our lives in response to reality and not the world as it is painted by unprincipled media outlets. Posted by phanto, Friday, 27 March 2015 11:55:40 AM
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Is mise;
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/obscene-act-police-hunt-man-who-exposed-himself-to-two-women-in-library/story-fni0fee2-1227148281343 http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/teenage-girls-capture-alleged-sexual-assault-offender-on-camera-20140710-zt21u.html http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/man-jailed-for-van-rape-20100825-13r97.html Sites like Stormfront and VNN have extensive sub fora dedicated to collecting mainstream news stories of this nature, but I don't expect people to lower themselves to reading the comments on such sites. You might actually be better off making some study of men in Third World countries and poor men generally, rape is not a crime of power projection but it is predominantly a crime of the powereless, the frustrated and the downtrodden. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 27 March 2015 2:22:19 PM
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I agree phanto, that there is less violence against women than in the past, when it was not a news item. Perhaps the huge growth on female with journalist qualifications, has an effect on such reporting. I do believe less frequented public places have however become more dangerous.
However when it comes to our author, I will be much more inclined to pay attention when I see the same concern for men murdered by their womenfolk, or her denunciation of women who cut off men's penises while they sleep. Posted by Hasbeen, Friday, 27 March 2015 3:08:52 PM
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Jay,
That's very good, so many of these offenders are from the sub continent, yet for some reason you only give one reference to someone proven to be an Indian, and his lawyer pleads that "....he would be only one of two Victorian prisoners from the Punjab region." Not many Indians in the local prison system; one supposes that his lawyer also checked for Hindi speakers;and this was five(5) years ago. The other two are said to be of Indian appearance. What does that mean, does it mean that their bone structure is not the same as Europeans and people from the Near and Middle East? How to tell without supporting evidence? "Sites like Stormfront and VNN have extensive sub fora dedicated to collecting mainstream news stories of this nature, but I don't expect people to lower themselves to reading the comments on such sites." How do you know if you don't read them? Posted by Is Mise, Friday, 27 March 2015 4:57:58 PM
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Where is your scenario true? Afghanistan? Mali? Sierra Leone?
Psychologist Don Symons defeated the thesis of "Against Our Will" aeons ago, the majority of rapists are powerless men, some are simply mentally disturbed sadists but in the main they are men who are unable to relate to women or whose lives are dominated by women. Men who are outsiders, who are low down the social pecking order, who have few male friends and are bullied by other males and those who are shy or have an unattractive physique are your typical rapists. These men seek to control their interactions with women with the object being short term sexual gratification and the release of frustration or social anxiety, in their minds they can never gain a woman's consent so they take by force or deception. This is why so many of these breast fondlers,train masturbators and flashers seem to be from the sub-continent, these are lowly men who see no hope of ever having normal relations with a woman, they're not power mad beasts looking to dominate a whole gender.