Ojnab,

"Is Mise so all men are masturbating all over the place, c'mon grow up, isolated cases ,yes,...."

I thought that it would be apparent that I was speaking of isolated cases; all men are not masturbating exhibitionists even if a tiny minority of them are Conspiracy Theorists.

Is Mise, Perhaps Ojnab is one of those serial offenders, given to beating the meat in public places and or aroused beyond control by the sight of a bare female ankle?

In any event, a good kick in the proverbial is often enough to kill all immediate passion, as does an electric fence when you're a tad slow throwing the other leg over. Albeit, it does tend to make the hair longer and straighter!

One notes, as do other posters, that this practice on trains and such, really didn't become prominent until the asylums were closed down?

Now there are occasions where a person may have taken one or two drinks too many, and chooses public transport over the car?

And while getting plastered may have taken to the piano in the public bar, where the pleased and entertained patrons may have plied him with drinks to keep the music and the singalong going.

In any event, when that much liquid is imbibed, at some point in the evening, it must also be released; and on one particular occasion, saw the weaving pianist return in a state of "undress".

Anyway, one dear old soul, who felt he may be in danger of acute embarrassment, (if he could ever find it) finally sidled up to him and inquired, Mr piano man, do you know your fly's open?

Whereupon the gallant pianist replied, no madam, but if you could hum a few bars, I'll try and play it.
Rhrosty.

Ah, c'mon, Ms Tsitas!

Why do we women keep supporting this fiction that we can be free and independent persons despite the fact that we can't venture two blocks alone without the threat of homicidal or non-homicidal rape?

It's interesting that you use 'terrorism' as an analogy - whether by accident or design. Yet, rape and sexual assault - especially by strangers - has been targeted by many feminist writers (particularly Susan Browniller) as gender-political terrorism, designed to keep all women in a state of fear and forcing them to defer to men for their personal protection.

This latest terrorist crime against a lone woman walking to somewhere or other pursuing her own business will all blow over and the media will move on to other things. However, women will be sufficiently terrorised by the story to feel sufficiently vulnerable and surrender sufficiently more of their independence and mobility to male protection in order to feel safe.

That's the way of the patriarchy. Always was. Always will be.

Ojnab

This masturbating-man on public transport thing has happened to me twice (and much worse). I won't go into the details. However, according to accounts by my female friends and acquaintances, it's VERY common.

So far, I haven't encountered a case of a man confronted by a woman masturbating on public transport.

Anyone care to offer a man-friendly reason why this is so?

Killarney,

"So far, I haven't encountered a case of a man confronted by a woman masturbating on public transport."

I don't doubt that it does not happen, but if it did there is little chance of it being reported.

I and many other men are all in favour of women being allowed to carry some means of effective self protection.

'So far, I haven't encountered a case of a man confronted by a woman masturbating on public transport. '

apparently some men were confronted with a woman 'masturbating' on plane trip a week or so ago.