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Exercising our rights: women, violence and freedom : Comments

By Evelyn Tsitas, published 25/3/2015

When an act of terrorism occurs, the message from authorities after the dust has settled is loud and clear – do not change the way you live, do not give into fear. That way the terrorists will have won.

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Killarney,

Perhaps you might only find men confronting but it is not unusual for women to masturbate in public places and even work. Women have written articles on how to do it unobtrusively. Unlike men, women have intimate discussions about sex all of the time and the women's sections of the media are full of it. So it would be a subject you have missed out on. You should get out more?

The gender war is old hat, last Millenium. However the gender war is still a jolly good earner for some educated middle class women, a wagon to ride.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 26 March 2015 1:32:08 PM
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Killarney,
Susan Brownmiller would say that wouldn't she.
Men who assault women in this way are such rare birds that the community really does react with shock and outrage when they appear, the full extent of Adrian Bayley's offending has today been revealed;
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/adrian-bayleys-reign-of-terror-how-the-system-failed-us-20150326-1m6aj3.html
This is not a gender issue, men who rape and kill women are deviants, the way they think and act has nothing to do with masculinity and sets them completely apart from other men.
A family member was a prison officer for many years, at one point she was working on the unit where Peter Dupas was housed, she said he was a total outsider and that he couldn't relate to the other male prisoners, even though they were some of the most violent men in the system.
These are "un-men" and sadly they are the ones who commit most of the violent crime against women, the average number of victims for a rapist is around 10 and this tiny element of society also commit the majority of other violent crime as well.
Thankfully there are at most only a few hundred such men in Victoria and the police have about a 90% clearance rate of rape cases, as soon as they are detected these men are locked up, the problem is that they get out again and the recidivism rate is as high as 40%.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 26 March 2015 2:09:36 PM
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OTB

If the 'gender war is old hat', why do gender threads on online forums attract so many comments? Why does feminism arouse so much hostility and bigotry? Why do so many groups and individuals spend so much time spreading disinformation about feminism?

The so-called gender war will only become 'old hat' when the power imbalance between the genders finally reaches something resembling equality.

Jay

Rapists are not all that rare and rape culture is all-pervasive. In war, a lot of nice law-abiding men commit war rape. Also, studies have found that a substantial percentage of men admit that they would rape if they were certain they would get away with it.

And whether or not rapists are just a tiny minority of disturbed men, ALL women are terrorised by it. I doubt very much if there is a woman anywhere who has not experienced a rape or near-rape experience.
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 26 March 2015 6:49:45 PM
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Killarney,
Feminism provokes such hostility because it's a pack of lies, didn't Susan Brownmiller and Betty Friedan recant in the end? Betty Friedan actually apologised for setting the sexes against one another didn't she?
Rape is not about power, rape is not tolerated by normal men and if not for the intervention of the state rapists today would still be hunted down by the male relatives and friends of the victim and put to death like they were in the past. When was the death penalty for rape abolished in the U.S? If I'm not mistaken it was still applied in some states into the 1970's.
A rapist is the exact opposite of a man, he's the "un-man", the "anti-man".
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 26 March 2015 7:11:07 PM
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Jay

'Feminism provokes such hostility because it's a pack of lies ...'

No. Feminism provokes hostility because it speaks the truth - about how power is distributed across the genders. Many men and male-identified women hate feminism because they believe it's men who are personally under attack, not a political system that is being criticised and challenged.

Rape and women's fear of it are among the many tools of a system that needs to keep women under men's control and to restrict women's lives as much as possible.
Posted by Killarney, Thursday, 26 March 2015 10:42:35 PM
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Killarney,

Here you go, men are obsolete. Or at least have been well and truly routed and are on the slide downwards. So after all of those decades of life wasted moaning, whining and blaming men you can now be responsible for your own choices and outcomes.

http://time.com/179/men-are-obsolete/
Posted by onthebeach, Friday, 27 March 2015 1:34:03 AM
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