When the social norms change other things must change! And a women should be able to walk alone and unmolested! I don't know why this kid was stabbed in the back by a craven coward?

And a cautionary lesson against the widespread use of earplugs!

I find it hard to disagree with mild colonial on this matter!

And proof positive that you don't need a gun to murder.

In fact most murders occur within the home and with the ubiquitous Wiltshire self sharping knife?

I wonder if this story could have had a less tragic ending, if say the female runner hadn't be using ear plugs and was able to run backwards nearly as well as she ran forward?

Something we were once taught during military training; and if she had a small 25 calibre pistol on her person; and the gumption to use it, with the result the knife wielding crim the only one hurt and needing treatment or cremation.

And if the magazine were loaded with the first two rounds being nonlethal bean bag ammunition, would that satisfy those who both abhor guns and are at least partly responsible for the fact that this kid was alone and unarmed; and therefore the target of choice for a mindless killer.

As for the masturbater? What would have been the outcome if the offended party pulled a pistol and ordered it put away and the offending party out at the next stop; or risk losing the offending member!

Yes, those who choose this option would need to pass intensive police and health checks, and then be subject to (unless ex-police/ex-military) military style weapons training, to not just shoot straight, but thoroughly identify the target before squeezing the trigger.

We really do need to rethink self defense as a acceptable option for owning a small calibre pistol! But particularly for our most vulnerable!

It's just not acceptable that most of the citizens with this option, remain the worst criminal types in a very different society!

And demonstrably, you just don't need a gun to snuff out an innocent young life!
Rhrosty.

Suse,

We do the best for our children's safety if we teach them to use weapons, improvised weapons and unarmed combat.
All of my children have been so taught and have now become highly trained, so much so that I can no longer beat any of them even using the low down tricks that the Australian Government paid for me to learn.

One son was stabbed in an Irish pub by a random attacker, said attacker went to hospital for a couple of weeks. The son ignored the knife that was in his side and hit back with effect; the wound was not serious.

One daughter was in the police and now does security and defence training for a private organization. She is the smallest of the brood being 5 foot nothing with her shoes on, (she also throws herself out of perfectly good 'planes for 'fun').

None of them have ever been in any trouble with the law and all are fairly prosperous.

Teach them to be street smart and to fight when it's necessary and to realize that there is no such thing as a fair fight if one is unlawfully attacked.

Everybody can be in the wrong place at the wrong time, female , male and children it makes no difference to what may happen, the people on board the plane that has just crashed, all boarded at the wrong time, they did not know their fate was sealed as they entered the plane.
Masturbation to occur by males would take more than looking at a pretty face, we are not born to do just that, there has to be stimulus such as a porn movie etc, do all women perform sex acts on a plane as reported recently in the press, they do not, we must remember that we all can be offended by such acts or laugh the matter off as some twisted individual trying to turn people on by such acts, which normally does not.
Yes! We all can be in the wrong place at the wrong time, to be shot at, raped, killed, masturbated at, dildo banging or whatever, it is the luck of the draw at the time.

Ojnab,

"....Masturbation to occur by males would take more than looking at a pretty face, we are not born to do just that, there has to be stimulus such as a porn movie etc,...."
A bit far from reality, the desire to give offence may be stimulus enough.
There was an outbreak of public masturbation on Sydney trains after the mental hospitals were closed in the 1960s (whenever?), I was travelling to Bankstown, sitting in the end of a carriage that had side seats, when a character started 'beating the meat' to the consternation of several women passengers, when I stood up and asked him if he'd like a kick to the appendages below he desisted and left the carriage.

These days I'd probably be prosecuted for denying him his individual right of free expression.

the 'freedom ' for the general community to feed on porn has certainly made the streets a lot more dangerous especially for females. Exercising ones rights might be good in theory but excercising one's commonsense would be a lot wiser. Some immigration hotspots certainly don't think that 'meat' should be on display. Still females are a lot safer than places like India or Pakistan.

Is Mise so all men are masturbating all over the place, c'mon grow up, isolated cases ,yes, are all women doing sex acts on planes, perhaps they are, but I have not been on a plane when this has happened, hope to see all men masturbating when I next visit any city, can't help themselves, if you are a man you must be in the oversexed brigade and happy to pull it out anywhere, if you are a woman perhaps you had your dress showing your fanny, but I forgot we can dress how we
like, can' we, tits showing but men must not have their fly open, or displaying their weapon, women are a joke in more ways than one.