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By Evelyn Tsitas, published 25/3/2015When an act of terrorism occurs, the message from authorities after the dust has settled is loud and clear – do not change the way you live, do not give into fear. That way the terrorists will have won.
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Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 30 March 2015 4:02:23 PM
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and this, Home invasion gang’s prison terms halved By STEPHEN RYAN March 20, 2015, http://www.theherald.com.au/story/2959158/home-invasion-gangs-prison-terms-halved/?cs=305 This was an armed home invasion where an offender, in front of four small children, put a rifle muzzle to a woman's head and pulled the trigger and Justice Elizabeth Fullerton ruled, "Despite the seriousness of the offending, which I would assess as less than mid-range principally because no actual violence as distinct from threats of violence was inflicted .. the sentences ..were so excessive as to be unreasonable or plainly unjust". It is plain that any problems you might complain about as being rooted in 'gender' actually stem instead from the leftist 'Progressive' policies and laws advised by the educated middle class hipster elite and especially the feminist elite of that. What about some accountability from the leftist 'Progressives' aka the International Socialists? You have a considerable hide to blame the millions of ordinary law-abiding, loving, caring and hard-working men for the leftist Progressives' softness on criminals and their callous disregard for the victims of crime. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 30 March 2015 4:11:30 PM
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Is Mise
'Partially, Killarney, partially.' Yes, I know. If a woman is confronted by an armed attacker or more than one, all bets are off. As for your account that none of the women in your self-defence course were able to fight you off, well that completely conflicts with my experience - unless my male instructor was faking it. Your point about the women not wanting to resort to bodily harm - e.g. eye-gouging - that's the main point I was making. Women's self-defence is not just about physical SD skills - it's also about mental preparedness to be physically violent when the situation calls for it. This is something that this culture has always discouraged in women, as we are brought up to believe that our only defence against attack is either limiting our movements (and thus, our lives) or deferring to men for protection. I notice also that the enculturated defencelessness traditionally directed at women is now being expanded to the general population. In recent decades, entire populations of most Western countries are now being legislated into becoming virtually defenceless against personal attack - using spurious arguments about terrorism, law and order etc. I really wish people would wake to this. Posted by Killarney, Monday, 30 March 2015 7:06:12 PM
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on the beach
I confess I got through the first two paragraphs of the first of your two lengthy link-saturated posts - and then stopped. From what I did read, you are banging your tired old drum that feminists need to get a life and that feminism is all about being mean and horrible to all those beautiful, darling, caring men out there. Heard it all before - many times a day. Maybe I'm missing something utterly brilliant - that's my loss. I'll leave it to other OLO readers on this thread to reap the benefit of your infinite wisdom. Posted by Killarney, Monday, 30 March 2015 7:13:15 PM
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Killarney,
You have nothing to dispel the facts I have put you. So you revert to insults and a walk-out. The clever, connected and always advantaged educated middle class feminist clique have done very well for themselves. Some are still angling for an assisted leg up to directorships as the cherry on top, but that is only to be expected. They are 'go-getters' who always were advantaged anyway and managed to stack the deck to do even better for themselves. You must be wondering how you missed out. Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 30 March 2015 9:04:09 PM
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Killarney,
"As for your account that none of the women in your self-defence course were able to fight you off,...." That's not what I said, what I said was that most women lack the strength to overcome a male attacker, that is a biological fact. Even more so for the elderly and the frail. How can they be empowered to defend themselves, not at some time in the dim future when we all live in harmony and mutual respect, but right now in the present? Is there anything that will allow a 70 year old, 7 stone woman to defeat a 20 year old, 12 stone male in the prime of life? Surely there must be some way that she could save herself? Perhaps a phone that automatically dials 000 and linked to a teleportation device that brings the police instantly? Posted by Is Mise, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 9:19:12 AM
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But you should get a life. You have unlimited opportunity and choices before you, many where you as a women will be given a leg-up and special development and counselling. You are only limited by your own personal skills and motivation.
Again, your cultural war has already been won. You waste your time and are hypocritical in dumping it back at the feet of the huge majority of men who never were as you imagined and were and continue to be caring, loving and protective of their families.
You already have the society you want and feminists dominate the policy debate even before it has begun in the parliaments and elsewhere. You have all of the power you ever dreamed about and more. Here is but one example of dozens from the daily media reports, where line of authority from top to bottom is dominated by women, exclusively women in fact.
I gave an example from many, but you and Suseonline preferred to duck it to insist on your victimhood. However it is indisputable that the feminist elite of educated middle class careerists who claim to represent all women but feathered their own nests instead, are rolling in power and influence (and self-entitlement).
Now to shoulder the responsibility for the unforeseen negative consequences of the changes you have wrought. Such as well-off middle class with double incomes forcing up inner city house prices and displacing the old and low income earners who used to call those older suburbs home. Or the social problems from destruction of your hated 'traditional'(sic) family, and the creation of single parent households where fathers are unknown.
Women are represented in powerful policy and decision-making roles as barristers, judges, senior executives, ministers of the crown and as Premiers and PM too,
"Sarah Bradley as freed rapist allegedly attacks same victim again
THE COURIER-MAIL OCTOBER 18, 2013
A CONTROVERSIAL judge is in the firing line again after an accused rapist was set free and allegedly raped and stabbed the same woman."
http://tinyurl.com/nnewm3y
tbc..