<Then you draw on the experiences as a nurse, while ignoring the fact that last I
<checked, your industry has mandatory DV screening for battered women, but not for
<battered men
Posted by vr041, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 11:24:39 PM

The types of questioned asked are;

"When was the last time he hit you?"

"When was the last time you hit her?"

Oh come on you guys, you are getting hysterical now.
If all these battered men are keeping it all to themselves out there in the community, then how on earth do you know of the scale of the problem?
Do you have ESP?

I would suggest that the scale of the DV against women is also understated because women don't report it all either, due to being frightened of repercussions from their partner. At the end of the day, men can physically block violence against them a lot easier than most women, so don't tell me there are lots of scared men out there because no one will ever believe that.

Trying to deflect the huge problem of DV out in the community by saying there is more of a female perpetrated problem is just sexist hysteria from men who don't like losing control of women.
Get over yourselves.

@suzonline In calling me personally "hystrical" because I am speaking out as a battered men against injustices and stigmatisation I face, due almost entirely to feminists like you these days, you have simply deomnstrated my point that when you scrape away the denials, you clearly view me personally and every other battered man out there as both the scum beneath your feet and living heresies to your fanatical feminist dogma.

Firstly, nationally, ABS and AIC for example, have explicitly stated the extent of the problem; internationally, it has been large-scale undertakings like the P.A.S.K. ESP has never been a pre-requirement for literacy or research.

Secondly, certainly women under-report, however it is matter of public record that battered men under-report and under-disclose far more. This is hardly surprising when we have to fear not only reprisals, like battered women, but stigmatisation due to bigoted, gendered ideologies like yours.

"At the end of the day, men can physically block violence against them a lot easier than most women, so don't tell me there are lots of scared men out there because no one will ever believe that."

Translation: "battered men should just 'man up and take it' and they're not 'real men' if they can't"; that's precisely what you've argued here. Your response here is no different to blaming women for being raped, for "dressing like a slut". Never mind the fact that your delusional view of masculinity ignores the fact that the moment a weapon is used or the victim is drugged, physical strength differences become irrelevant.

"Trying to deflect the huge problem of DV out in the community by saying there is more of a female perpetrated problem is just sexist hysteria from men who don't like losing control of women."

Firstly, I seem to recall arguing for a gender neutral approach which was inclusive of all perpetrators and victims; feminism's gendered narrative on abuse is what stigmatises victims and enabled perpetrators. Secondly, you talking about control is the height of hypocrisy, given your desperate and fanatical desire to control the victim narrative along gendered lines.

Wolly B, the strongest indicators from what I've seen are the usual culprits. Substance abuse, mental illness, "disadvantage" etc.

Suseonline
"then how on earth do you know of the scale of the problem" - bt looking that the research that's not bound to feminist dogma or the natural consequences of the one sided portrayal of DV. Research that asks the same questions of both genders rather than starting with feminist narratives about power and finding the results that fit.

I and others have posted links and excerpts from it here over many years. There is a lot of it available and the conclusions are very clear if you are not blinded by gendered blinkers. You might ask yourself why you still don't know the answer to your question.

R0bert

Suzeonline : At the end of the day, men can physically block violence against them a lot easier than most women, so don't tell me there are lots of scared men out there because no one will ever believe that.

So it is only violence if you connect with your target? If you swing a baseball bat at someone it is ok until you actually hit them. So you shouldn’t be scared if someone fires a gun at you. Only be scared if they actually hit you. So a woman should not feel fear because there is a possibility of being hurt – she should only feel fear after she gets hurt. This is a bizarre understanding of one of human nature’s fundamental instincts.

By your logic women could block violence if they took self-defence courses so ultimately it is their own fault if they get hurt.

When all else fails just tell men to ‘get over it’.

RObert, (to Suseonline), "You might ask yourself why you still don't know the answer to your question"

Admittedly though it would be difficult for the public to sort the facts from the political rhetoric, where the taxpayer is forking out large grants to bodies headed by CEOs who declare emphatically that DV is gendered violence affecting women and children with men are the offenders, full stop!

-Just remembering Stott-Despoya's repetitive rants (doesn't she have anything else?) on Q&A. Stott-Despoya has been on continuous loop for years and that is just more of the same. I haven't bothered to look for the annual report and financial statement for that body Stott-Despoya heads but I'd guess it is swinging from the taxpayer's teat for up to $10m pa. That allows a heck of a lot of networking, lobbying and marketing.

Add to that the cross marketing of other victim industry lobbyists who also suck mightily from the guvvy teats.

Goodness knows what the total annual spend pa on feminist promotion is out of that bucket of tax dollars, but it has been leaking like a colander since Whitlam.

Of course one still wonders what it might take for women like Suseonline to wake up to reality. -That she has been taken for a ride for years by clever, manipulative, educated middle class women who always were advantaged and have enjoyed a jolly good ride on the gravy train.