The ultimate test for Killarney, Suzeonline and all other women is whether they are prepared to renounce any domestic relationships with men that they have. Are they also prepared to declare that they will never enter into any relationship until it can be proven beyond all doubt that all men have stopped behaving violently?

This is the only logical way for them to act. Any woman who enters into such a relationship knowing full well that there is a one in three chance of being beaten up by their partner is either a complete fool or totally lacking in self respect. Why would you take such an enormous risk to your well being? They know for certain that the statistics are trustworthy and that women can be killed in domestic relationships and yet they enter or remain in such relationships.

You cannot say that women who are victims of domestic violence did not expect it would happen to them. They have known ever since the statistics have been available that there is a one in three chance that they will come to harm. Even the Australian of the Year is telling them and yet they remain in relationships with men. Why isn’t she telling them to get the hell out of those relationships while there is still a chance?

In what other circumstances would you take on such odds against your own health and well being unless you had no choice? Women have a choice. If they find themselves in a situation where they do not have a choice for financial reasons then they should appeal to women like Killarney, Suzeonline, Rosie Batty and all those other concerned advocates against domestic violence for help. It is not the government’s problem if you freely choose to enter into a situation with such ridiculous expectations of a positive outcome when all the statistics and research are telling you not to. .... cont.

Why are men always put down, mainly by women? Evidently a TV ad depicts a married man too tired to have sex with his oversexed wife so she wants to jump into bed with someone she does not know to satisfy her lust.
Ladies get this straight, just where are these oversexed women, it is more likely the woman who is too tired to perform fellatio on their husbands,or whatever sex position he may want, if she wants to have sex swinging from the chandelier for goodness sake tell him, she may be surprised at his lust then.
When are we going to see women in bed half asleep while there oversexed husbands resort to masturbation or go out to find an oversexed woman and leave her in bed asleep, of course we won't, ladies must not be depicted as zombies but men can
Men are definately on the hit list with women whether it be violence, killing, zombies in bed, zombies at work, but ladies take a long and hard look at yourselves.
How often do you see women out digging holes in the ground, chopping trees down, etc never, men can do everything a woman can in the house, perhaps we do not need them

Women who genuinely care about the safety and welfare of other women should be doing everything in their power to encourage them to leave and should help them in practical ways to leave where they need it. Or is it that they safety of women is not their primary concern?

It is time for these women to either put up or shut up. The problem is not about domestic violence it is about procuring the safety of women. Women have all they need to protect themselves from the violence of men that they tell us is so epidemic. They have choice and can have independence from domestic relationships. It is time they began exercising that independence. Nothing is more important than their own personal safety and when they choose to enter situations where it is severely threatened then they show a total lack of self-respect. This is why any arguments they put forward about domestic violence are so hollow. There is no need to argue there is simply a need to act. To get out of all domestic relationships and to spend their energy helping their gender to see that such relationships are very dangerous.

Suzeonline says she has seen firsthand the damage that can be inflicted by domestic violence. Why is she not spending her time doing everything she can to help women see the danger of entering into any domestic relationship with men? Why isn’t she helping them get out before it is too late? Why does she waste her time arguing when action is the only logical course?

Killarney thinks it is a lot to do with the ‘system’. A patriarchal system can only be dismantled by women taking affirmative action not by futile argument. If women refused to enter into domestic relationships they could not become victims of a patriarchal attitude to domestic violence. There would be no domestic violence without domestic relationships. Women can take control but they do not have enough self-respect to do so. The problem is not what men do to women but what women do to themselves by having domestic relationships.

@suzonline Firstly, that ANROWS source has already been debunked, on the following grounds:

"“The statistics presented by ANROWS have been designed to over-inflate female victimisation by using lifetime experience of violence instead of current rates, while downplaying male victimisation by taking only the female perspective,”

http://www.oneinthree.com.au/news/2014/9/15/one-third-of-domestic-violence-victims-denied-services.html

But of course, that's perfectly acceptable to sexist, abuse apologist perspectives like yours. After all, your argument - the standard feminist argument - amounts to:

"Here's something I found to suggest a majority of DV victims are women. Therefore I can justify claiming that the overwhelming majority of DV is perpetrated by men against women. Therefore I can justify treating DV as a 'women's issue' and a 'men's problem and perpetrating the myth that only women are victims and only men are perpetrators. Oh but here's an acknowledgement of male victims - but understand that it's entirely tokenistic, there solely as an act of plausible deniability and if push comes to shove, I'll be forced to reveal that I think men should just 'man up' and take it from a woman [after all he probably deserved it anyway] and if he can't, then he's not a 'real man' anyway - not that I think men are human beings to begin with."

Not that the above should surprise anyone who is informed. Whenever you scrape away the veneer of the what feminism pretends to be in a PR exercise, you very quickly find that while when it comes to female victims "one is too many", when it comes to male victims, suddenly it's "a numbers game" - where "winning the game" happens when you can make those number appear to resemble "0". But then that's hardly surprising when feminism at its heart has always viewed men as a pack of brainless, knuckle-dragging neanderthals who are to blame for any and all violence - even when they are the victim and the abuser is female.

@Bronte Why shouldn't those of us who are battered men be filled with pain and anger over how feminism has treated us. For over 40 years, feminism has created a narrative whereby we are quite literally stigmatised as virtually non-existent, lying, effeminate scum - after all, according to feminism, all violence and abuse is the product of "male power" and all female-perpetrated abuse is justifiable as a reaction to it - ergo men are to blame for all abuse, even when they are the victim and the abuser is female.

Furthermore whenever anyone has gotten too close to challenging that narrative, they have even been met with not only violence, but terrorism, by the feminist movement: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/30/feminists-deny-truth-on-domestic-violence/

Erin Pizzey, the founder of one of thew world's first battered women's shelter and the author of "Scream quietly or the neighbours will hear" has herself gone on record as stating that this has been to exploit DV as a cashcow and as a means of perpetuating their radical, hateful dogma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix5-jqQYU1M

Now as a survivor of DV and child abuse, living in a world where I am stigmatised as a virtually non-existent, lying, piece of effeminate scum, who "had it coming to me" - where turning for help is more likely to result in mockery, minimisation, being treated like a perpetrator or dismissal, based purely on my gender and the gender of my abusers, why shouldn't I feel the same level of scorn and condemnation for the primary source of that bigotry - feminism - that for example, African Americans feel towards the KKK?

ur041 ."@suzonline Firstly, that ANROWS source has already been debunked,"

Really?
Who are we to believe....official Government statistics taken from police and court reports.....or dodgywebsite.com brought to us by who knows who in America?

I can certainly see how one in three domestic violence victims can be males, as I have seen reports on men killing their fathers, sons, nephews only recently, and it is all very sad, as all domestic violence is in all forms.

What I rarely see reported is women killing their intimate male partners, thank goodness.

Mind you, if we see any changes in our gun laws in Australia, and it is made easier for all people to get their hands on guns, like it is in the shooting-mad country of the US, then we could very well see increases in all kinds of domestic violence fatality statistics.
I hope we never see this happen.