@Ojnab, you are right. There will always be domestic violence, more so whilst fundamentally flawed family law, domestic violence laws and court processes remain in the place.

Suseonline et al like to rabbit on about how 2 or whatever women are killed each week by their partners. But they would be amongst the last to mention the common thread in many if not the majority of these killings is a father separated from his child/ren. They like to construe these cases as the man having lost control over his ex-partner not the ex-partner having gained near full control over the child/ren as in the Batty case. Eg the kid had to get agreement from his mother to stay a bit longer playing with his father.

There was another case in Canberra just recently where a mother of 3 got murdered by a person who I understand through the grapevine was the father of her youngest a 2 week old baby. The mother had taken out an "easy as pie" to get "ex parte" interim AVO (or whatever they call them in the ACT) a few days before against the man who murdered her. It must have been served on him because it is reported in the press that he has been charged with breaching an AVO as well as the murder, but apparently nowhere in the press has it been reported that he is the father of the newborn, only as him having been in a relationship with the murdered woman. Well if all this is true what do you think made the man so angry?

Roscop, if a man kills his ex-partner because she has custody of their children and took out an AVO against him, then surely the courts were right all along to grant these to her?
You are disgusting if you suggest that it is her fault he killed her.

Surely he should have gone after those police or court officials who gave her custody of the kids and the AVO?
But no, those sort of controlling, violent men are cowards who deserve everything they got.
The children are the real victims of these domestic violence murders, because they have now lost both their parents.

Suseonline, No I don't agree with your proposition that because the murder occurred after the issue of the AVO it necessarily proves what the situation was before the AVO was issued.

I dare say the woman would be still be alive today if she hadn't gotten an "easy as pie" "ex parte" AVO taken out on the father of her newborn child. It would seem hardly unlikely that the mother would have had the time to be given custody of their neonate.

Do you know what the term "ex parte" means? If the father was such a serious threat to the mother, the father should have been ordered to court so he could respond to mother's allegations. In the interim the mother and their children could have taken themselves off to a battered woman's refuge. But as person who I understand works with "alleged" victims, you would know the court is only interested on separating the parties in the conflict in the absence of one of them, and in most cases that means putting distance between the absent one and his child/ren, not in determining facts.

Its disgusting that AVO's can be taken out so easily purely on the basis of unsubstantiated allegation/s. Men don't have a monopoly on lying and exaggerating and behaving with malice when it comes to legal actions. I take it from what you say that its inconsequential if a father is separated from his child/ren on that basis.

No Roscop, I think it is a tragedy and disgusting that a frightened woman can take an AVO out on a man and STILL get murdered!

I have seen the cops come round to a house where the ex-partner has turned up with a machete, only to talk him into leaving quietly. He should have been jailed for breaching the order. No kids involved in that one, he was just upset that she dared to leave him, like most of them are....and you know it.

AVOs are not worth the paper they are written on.

I believe there are new laws being put forward at present re AVO's, so the penalties are more severe if they are breached.
You should be happy about this because all those battered men out there will be able to take out AVOs against their rough women and be a little more safe....

Suseonline, "I believe there are new laws being put forward at present re AVO's, so the penalties are more severe if they are breached."

Well that isn't going to help women who are seriously at risk of being murdered. I don't think a person intent on murdering his ex-partner is going to be thinking too much about the stiffer penalties for breaching AVO conditions if he is not too bothered about the consequences for murder. Then again some women seem to have strange and illogical way of thinking about these things as you've shown.

As to your story "I have seen the cops come round to a house where the ex-partner has turned up with a machete, only to talk him into leaving quietly. He should have been jailed for breaching the order."...seems like a crock of the proverbial to me.

I would have thought threatening with a machete was in itself a criminal offence irrespective of whether an AVO was being breached...what were the cops affirmative action recruits?

Not crock at all unfortunately.
I could tell you many more stories, but no point as I know you won't believe me anyway.
I don't know what the answer is to protect these women.
Have a nice day.